Electric F3A

[Keith Black]

I don't care what power plant you're running, after one high impact mid-air
you will definitely need a backup plane.

Trust me, I know!

Keith Black

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anne et Xavier" <xavier.mouraux at sympatico.ca>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:15 PM
Subject: RE: Electric F3A


> I could tell a funny story for the electric. In the last few weeks, it
> happen twice that I went to the field with my pattern plane (glow) and a
> "40 size" electric pattern or 3D planes plus a foamie, and didn't take
> the pattern plane out of the car. I was having fun, only had to connect
> the battery and go fly. I was suppose to practice the sequence. I even
> got the comment today while I was walking to the runway for the first
> flight: "already ready to go!?"
>
> I am evaluating the power system for my new plane and I know the
> electric setup will be (more) expensive. However, the cleanness and
> simplicity at the field worth some money to me. If I don't need a backup
> plane, it saves some money there too. I would go the easy way by
> following other people's experimentation so I should avoid damaging
> equipment. I will continue my evaluation but I may trick the numbers so
> the answer is electric :-)
>
> Xavier
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
> Sent: September 24, 2005 4:37 PM
> To: chad at f3acanada.org; discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Electric F3A **Klipped ** 4 reposting
>
>
> Hi Chad..
>     Thank you for your open and honest sharing of facts. It is
> re-freshing
> to see some are willing to tell it like it is. Wish human nature allowed
> all
> to follow in your footsteps.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chad Northeast" <chad at f3acanada.org>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Electric F3A **Klipped ** 4 reposting
>
>
> > Del
> >
> > >I have never had a gallon jug of fuel catch on fire or burst in my
> > vehicle or garage
> >
> > I think I have addressed these concerns as honestly as I could, and
> > what I
> > shared with the list is 100% what I have experienced.  I have never
> burnt
> > down my house or car or started a grass fire.  Lipo's just dont
> explode
> > into flames on their own (at least not that I have seen, and I have a
> lot
> > of them) !  User error when setting up the charger (cell count) is the
>
> > number 1 cause of fires, to me this is akin to throwing a match into a
>
> > gallon of fuel as its negligent not to check that your charger is
> setup
> > right.  Thats what I mean by crossing your t's and dotting your i's
> with
> > the electrics.  With the new Thunder power charger coming along with
> their
> > balancers setting the wrong cell count should be nearly impossible.
> >
> > >I want to come out and have fun and relax when flying.. Not to chase
> > maintaince chores and try to remember more details. They need
> > reliability
> > and dependability of products that work all the time they way they
> should
> > if you want to stay competitive.
> >
> > That is the great thing about the electric setup, at the field there
> > is no
> > work!  I can head out to the field and pound through 4 flights (no
> > charging) faster than any glow plane.  There is no needle to tune, no
> > engine to start, nothing to clean, no header to break, nothing to
> fuel.
> > Can things fail, absolutely.  As Jason said though the majority of
> stuff
> > he saw at Hacker were from guys pushing outside the limits of the
> > equipment.  If you run a YS outside its happy place it will go boom as
>
> > fast as an electric will!
> >
> > >Many used to having standing joke about need for 3 YS engines to stay
> > competitive..  I wonder how many packs and chargers and need to have
> > vehicle full of gas has to be addressed to be truly competitive and to
>
> > have backups of how many backups..
> >
> > When I flew YS I did have 3 motors :)  I rarely used it but in my
> > experience you were asking for trouble if you didnt have three, I did
> have
> > engine failures in both Ireland and in Poland during the Worlds
> although
> > it was always during practise and never cost me a round.
> >
> > I can tell you when I went to France I took 2 planes, 2 chargers, 4
> > sets
> > of batteries, a spare RX, a full set of spare servos, spare
> > extensions/switches etc,12V power supply, and an array of tools.  I
> didnt
> > take a spare motor (both Dez and Adam did), and the team as a whole (3
>
> > people) took 1 spare ESC just in case and never used it.....I started
> > building my backup after I got back from Muncie, and I finished the
> > control linkages after we got to France :)  I flew it two flights to
> make
> > sure it flew and never used it again :)  Both Adam and Dez never
> brought
> > their backup models to the starting box, I always did but really
> > questioned my sanity as I assembled and disassembled it over and over
> :-)
> > I saw other electric guys only bring 1 model to the starting box.  I
> know
> > of two pilots who failed to start in the three minute time, 1 was a
> > two-stroke, 1 was a 4-stroke.
> > As Jason said e-pattern is not for everyone, I can think of a few guys
> who
> > I will recommend avoid it at all costs.....but its also not the doom
> and
> > gloom of failures that some like to post.
> >
> > Chad
> >
>
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