Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"

[Jim Ivey]

 Jerry
 I watched some IMAC nats last year and these guys takeoff while the other guy is on his final.Some of the planes were just pointed at the runway and turned loose across runway. Maybe that's what we need to do. We don't score skills at takeoff  or landing anymore.Why not? Did I put a idea in someones head?

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "Jerry Stebbins" <JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net>
> Date: 2005/05/22 Sun PM 09:46:36 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> 
> Maybe so, but someone done writ it wrong and now we got rules that are
> incomplete, unsafe, and conflicting.
> Same ol simple "ifn it ain't broke don't fix it" but some thought it was
> broke, had there own version of a "better way", and rammed it thru.
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> 
> 
> > The idea was SUPPOSED to be "Takeoff - no aerobatic manuevers, doesn't
> break
> > safety line = 10".  "Landing - finish sequence in whatever direction, make
> > turns necessary to land, no aerobatic maneuvers, no breaking the safety
> line
> > = 10".....
> >
> > Wasn't it ?
> >
> > Bob Pastorello
> > www.rcaerobats.net
> > rcaerobob at cox.net
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Larry Diamond" <lld613 at psci.net>
> > To: "NSRCA" <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 4:57 PM
> > Subject: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> >
> >
> > >I know there has been much discussion on this, but after CDing a contest
> > > this weekend, I believe there needs to be a clear understanding of what
> is
> > > expected in two areas.
> > >
> > > 1) When to call "Take-Off complete / Landing commencing". When does it
> > > need to be called? After exiting the Box for the last maneuver for
> > > Landing.
> > > Prior to entering the box for the trim pass on Take-Off. This is what
> > > makes
> > > sense to me from CDing a contest.
> > >
> > > 2) Is a Dead-Stick Landing a "Zero Landing"? At the beginning of our
> > > contest I stated that we would not zero TO / L for calling. So we scored
> > > all
> > > landings. However, if a dead-stick prevents completing the prescribed
> > > maneuver, then a zero is really the most likely result at the NATS. I
> > > don't
> > > believe this was intended.
> > >
> > > The Judging committee should really jump on this and get clarification
> out
> > > as quickly as possible for the "Official Judge Ruling" People are trying
> > > to
> > > practice this and although seemingly easy on paper, the execution of
> > > calling
> > > and judging properly does get a bit confusing...We need to make sure
> > > everyone is practicing this correctly before the NATS or it will be a
> > > potential area of concern for the CD's...
> > >
> > > Larry Diamond
> > > NSRCA 3083
> > >
> >
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