calling complete for new takeoff

[Bill Glaze]

I really am neutral on this new rule.  However, seldom have I seen a 
more obvious example of the Law of Unintended Consequences so directly 
applied.  "Simplification?"  It would appear to belie the term.
Bill Glaze

John Ferrell wrote:

> I like the new T&L rule. I believe the box calls are no longer of any 
> value, remember the childhood games of "Mother may I?" and "Simon says?".
>  
> The end run to pass the rule is what is under debate. I cannot fault 
> those who did it because they are the ones granted the power. If the 
> Contest Board members are really up to the assigned task, why are they 
> not conducting the survey?
>  
> John Ferrell   
> http://DixieNC.US
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Derek Koopowitz <mailto:derekkoopowitz at earthlink.net>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org> ;
>     discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:18 AM
>     Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff
>
>     As usual... we always blame someone else.  No one seems to be
>     willing to sit up and say "I was President and I'll take the blame
>     because it happened on my watch".  Typical.
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Grow Pattern
>     Sent: May 16, 2005 6:45 AM
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff
>
>     I agree that all AMA members have these rights, But when the
>     contest board chairman, The NSRCA president-elect and the NSRCA
>     vice president at that time, submit a proposal in direct
>     opposition to the majority of the NSRCA,
>      
>     It does pose the question of why did we bother to do the work and
>     find out what the NSRCA membership wanted. 
>      
>     Eric. 
>      
>      
>      
>      
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>         From: Gordon Anderson <mailto:GAA at owt.com>
>         To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>         Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:57 AM
>         Subject: RE: calling complete for new takeoff
>
>         My point is the procedure does not involve the NSRCA, go to
>         the AMA web site and download document 333.pdf, its the rule
>         change proposal form. Its signed by three AMA members one of
>         whom must be a CD. The NSRCA is a special interest group not a
>         ruling body. The process is a right that every AMA member has
>         regardless of ones affiliation with a SIG. It is unreasonable
>         to expect an AMA member to give up his/her rights when they
>         join a SIG.
>          
>         --Gordon
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>         [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Wincons at aol.com
>         Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 9:32 PM
>         To: discussion at nsrca.org
>         Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff
>
>         In a message dated 5/16/2005 12:05:11 A.M. Central Daylight
>         Time, GAA at owt.com writes:
>
>             Individuals submit rule change proposals not the NSRCA.
>             The NSRCA board has no special power in this process, at
>             least not in the version of the rule book I'm looking at.
>              
>             --Gordon
>
>         These rules were written BEFORE the NSRCA was recognized as
>         the official SIG for pattern, I believe.  It is in our best
>         interests to act together, in concert, which is why we formed
>         the NSRCA.  And why we all belong.  It's kinda like being a
>         citizen; we enjoy the protection of the Union, and are
>         obligated to work with the majority.  Being an NSRCA member
>         includes an implied responsibility to cooperate with the
>         majority opinions democratically arrived at. This way, we can
>         provide the best possible guidance to the AMA Contest Board in
>         maintaining our sport, to betterment of the greatest number.
>          
>         Brian Clemmons
>
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