Another box rule (discussion)

[Rcmaster199 at aol.com]

Okay, Okay, I give. It was 50 years ago already. Jeeesh that's as old as I  
am. <BG> 
 
Bill, I was just being kind!
 
MattK
 
In a message dated 3/10/2005 1:38:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
billglaze at triad.rr.com writes:

While I  definitely like the new system of downgrading, I remember well my 
first  contest season.  All that we had, at that time, was impression  judging.  
(~1955)
And, guess what?  It worked remarkably well; I  can't recall ever having 
misgivings about the placement of at least the first  five people; maybe more.
But yes, now is better, IMHO.

Bill  Glaze

_Rcmaster199 at aol.com_ (mailto:Rcmaster199 at aol.com)  wrote:


In pattern there is a hard rule that has been passed by the CB. It's  called 
the "1 pt per 15 degree " rule, and pattern judges apply the rule  fairly well 
to center maneuvers at least. Most of the top judges in pattern  try hard NOT 
to judge " by impression", but rather by the  Downgrade Guidelines that have 
been established. The downgrades are often  discussed at judging seminars and 
a handout of downgrades is given to  attendees. Also a list of mandatory 
zeroes is given to same. To return back  to impression judging would be to take a 
step backwards to 20 years  ago.
 
MattK
 
In a message dated 3/10/2005 1:06:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
_joddino at socal.rr.com_ (mailto:joddino at socal.rr.com)  writes:

It seems to me that the guy who puts the  airplane where the judges can see 
it should score better than the guys  that fly out in the next county.  And it 
is no more difficult to  judge the ends of a square box than it is to judge 
the backline of the  vee.  And who doesn't judge by impression?  The rules don't 
 specify that things like roll rates, altitudes. and radii need to be  the 
same on all maneuvers but we are not impressed if they vary all over  the map 
from maneuver to maneuver.  I say forget the box but  downgrade like mad for 
someone that is out of control on positioning and  that includes being too high, 
too low, too far up wind or down wind, in  too close or out too far.  Amen.
 
Jim  O






 
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