Pattern Box Rules (discussion)

[wgalligan]

Careful Doug...  Ed D. may take offense.  He only has 10,000 feet of runway
to practice on.

Wayne G.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Cronkhite" <seefo at san.rr.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:32 AM
Subject: RE: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)


> If you start making things easier, you won't attract new pilots. All
you'll
> really do is make existing pilots get sloppy. IMAC has adopted new
> positioning rules that are 'supposed' to make the noise footprint smaller
> when in reality all they've done is breed a new group of pilots who can't
> put the airplane where they want and have no reason to do so.
>
> My best analogy is the pilot who spends his entire flying time at a field
> with a HUGE runway, who then cannot land on a small one because he's never
> had to do it.
>
> Leave pattern alone. The only thing I'd do is ease up the schedules a bit
> from the current trend of thumb gynastics. I've always believed a pattern
> should be easy to fly, but difficult to fly well. The winning flight
> shouldn't just be the person who managed to get through it.
>
> -Doug
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of David Lockhart
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:39 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
> >
> > Arch,
> >
> > I think you are right on target.
> >
> > Competition is supposed to be tough and challenging, and
> > unlike too much of the PC rhetoric in schools today, there is
> > only ONE winner, and everyone else is a loser (even if they
> > played the game "nice").
> >
> > Sometimes I wonder if pattern would attract more people if -
> > - downgrades were 1 point per 30 degrees,
> > - no downgrades for wind drift,
> > - no box specified,
> > - final score includes only your single best flight,
> > - 3 "mulligans" allowed per flight,
> >
> > And, the awards at every contest included awards for best
> > Peewee, Junior, Senior, Open, Sr. Open, and Super Senior.
> >
> > Then 90% of the scores would be 9 or better, and 90% of the
> > entrants would go home with 1st place trophies.
> >
> > My apologies to anyone put off by this slightly off topic post.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at comcast.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
> >
> >
> > > What is the desire to make pattern easier.  Seems like
> > every proposal
> > > is
> > to
> > > make the planes easier to build to meet the rules, or changing the
> > patterns
> > > because they are hard.  I got into pattern because of the
> > challenge.
> > > I would much rather fly a very difficult schedule and have to go
> > > practice often than to fly an easy schedule that everyone
> > can do well.
> > > The
> > challenge
> > > should never be who you are flying against, but to be able to go
> > > practice
> > on
> > > your own and see the results.  Contests are great, but I
> > love pattern
> > > because I know that everytime I go fly that I am NOT going
> > to fly the
> > > perfect flight.  The challenge is to go out and put in that much
> > > better flight than I did before.
> > >
> > > We as a SIG are never going to attract everyone at the field.  It
> > > takes a certain personality type to be interested in
> > pattern.  I don't
> > > think the solution is to water down pattern to where
> > everyone wants to
> > > try it, but
> > at
> > > the cost of eliminating a lot of the challenges.  Once
> > again I think
> > > we
> > need
> > > to put the emphasis on getting people to try it. Yes, we
> > will lose a
> > > great number of those people to lack of time, interest, money or
> > > whatever, but
> > if
> > > each district just picks up 5 or 6 people a year, it will
> > keep pattern
> > > healthy.  I have no problem being lenient with rules in
> > Sportsman, but
> > > as
> > I
> > > think Chris Moon said, we don't need to sacrifice the other classes.
> > There
> > > are good cheaper alternatives with airframes (Aresti,
> > Focus, or even
> > > older designs that others are selling), motors, and radios.
> > >
> > > I think we need to concentrate on getting more people to
> > try it, all
> > > the while knowing that we are not going to keep everyone.
> > >
> > > Just my two cents...
> > >
> > > Arch
> > >
> > >
> > >
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