Weight limit discussion

[Norm500]

I would like as much information as anyone can furnish on the USA 
Star.

Thanks,  Norm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Atwood, Mark" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: Weight limit discussion


So Buddy...I HAVE to ask again... If the "Average" competitor that
you're referring to ISN"T following in Chip's/Jason's/Sean's (and 
of
course our beloved Dave L's) footsteps...then why aren't they 
flying any
of the competitive, well under 11lbs airframes that exist today??? 
USA
Star's, El Nino's, Desires, Arch Nem, SL-1, and on and on.



Dave's argument is simply that the ONLY reason people are 
struggling
with 11lbs...is because they're trying to build the same giant 
body
ships that the top guys fly.  That will STILL be the case..except 
if you
give them another lb to work with...those top guys will just build 
that
much bigger of a ship that people will still want...and still 
can't
build to make weight.



So my question is simply...why aren't people flying the lighter 
designed
2M airframes?



-Mark







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On Behalf Of BUDDYonRC at aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:01 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Weight limit discussion



Dave

In answer to the following parts of your post (had to split it up 
to big
for the list to handle)



Raise the weight limit in pattern, and the 2x2m monoplane will get
bigger and more costly (and the most competitive examples will 
still
probably be under 11 lbs, but the "average" plane won't be).

So far this is my point exactly. If we are to make AMA pattern an
inclusive event we in my opinion must include the average 
competitor.
Those who have higher aspirations will do what they must to 
achieve
perfection and a weight rule change will have little effect on 
those who
aspire to compete on a higher level.



Raise the weight limit in pattern while leaving unlimited
displacement and the 2x2m box, and the 2x2m monoplane will no 
longer be
the most competive design - the most competitive design will be a
purpose designed pattern bipe that will be substantially more 
expensive
(money, time, maintenance) than the current day designs.



If you don't think a purpose design pattern bipe would be the
best, ask Chip.  He will tell you without reservation he would not 
have
flown his Double Visions in the past few years if he did not think 
it
was the best plane.

Yes, but you also need to consider the level of competition and
his goals. Lets face it Chip is playing to the world in an arena
composed of professionals making him a member of an exclusive 
group that
for the most part excludes the rank and file of pattern. Here 
again I
believe AMA pattern should be structured to attract all of the 
rank and
file while affording those who aspire to greatness the opportunity 
to
compete on a higher level without effecting or excluding those who 
make
up the core of the pattern community or those who interested in 
joining
it

Buddy



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