[SPAM] RE: Landing Direction

[Larry Diamond]

FWIW.I haven't really seen many comments from folks that have recently
joined the ranks of Pattern.So here is my take.

 

I started flying Pattern in 2003. From my viewpoint, the scored L/TO has
made me work on both. Before competing in Pattern, I wouldn't fly if the
wind was above 10mph. If it was a crosswind, I wouldn't fly. Since 2003, my
T/O's are much better. I feel more comfortable with the cross wind and don't
feel the need to warn the judges about wearing a hard hat when I fly now.VBG

 

I can say with certainty. If the L/TO were not judged when I was in
Sportsman, I had plenty of other problems to worry about. I worked more on
the L/TO than anything else because it was easier to fix and still had allot
of scoring weight in Sportsman.

 

Because of my own experience, I'm a strong believer that it should be scored
through Advanced. Some of the comments I heared when I was flying at clubs
around the country were, "You can always tell a Pattern Pilot because the
L/TO are always close to perfect". I heard this at almost every field I flew
at while serving in the Navy.

 

Perhaps from my military background I'm big on tradition. IMHO, if there is
something that is good and sets you apart from all others, stay with it.It's
a Tradition.

 

Larry Diamond

NSRCA 3083

AMA 5024

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Keith Black
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:19 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Landing Direction
 
Marguerite,
 
Actually, I don't think you're alone on this issue. The NSRCA poll showed
overwhelmingly that the membership wanted scored t/o and landings as did the
public outcry after the majority's desires were disregarded. Apparently even
the contest board would have voted to keep the old rule but the question was
worded in such a way to confuse two of the contest board members.
 
Now that the new messed up rule has caused so much confusion I think
everyone is getting so fed-up with it that many would rather have nothing at
all than what we have now. To me this has more to do with being sick of all
the ridiculous discussions than a real desire of pattern pilots to not score
t/o and landings.
 
I for one have been paying attention to take-offs and landings this year and
find it a real shame that we don't have those beautiful centered liftoffs
and gentle climb outs. The new guys coming into sportsman will miss out on
this discipline.
 
Keith
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: MargueriteVG at aol.com 
To: patternrules at earthlink.net ; discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Landing Direction
 
 
Good Morning...... oh oh  here goes...
 I agree it is important to encourage good landings and take  and I will add
to your statement... why not all classes with take off and landing.  Yes,
for the most part the pilots in the higher classes will ace the landing.   I
have seen the higher classes mess up on the landings (yes and almost hit me
while I was in a contest flying)
  Take off and landing perfectly all the time is the goal for any pilot.
This seems to be getting so involved. I know I am out for the most part
alone on this issue and that is  fine with me.  ITs just that I would like
to see the pattern community respect this issue and set a good example for
all pilots joining on to Precision Aerobatics.
  A well done take off and a well done landing is certainly part of flying
aerobatic competition in all classes. Its the start ... and it should be.  I
was glad to see someone out there was thinking along the same lines here.
Marguerite
 
In a message dated 6/13/2005 8:23:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
patternrules at earthlink.net writes:


> Personally Jerry,  I'd like to see us score landings and take offs for
Sportsman and Intermediate.  Given the k-factor of their total schedule
it's a meaningful part, and the ability to land well in a high crosswind is
something they'll need to be comfortable with, so it's worth rewarding ann
motivating the practice required to do it well.

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