Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .

[Ron Van Putte]

On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:26 PM, Cameron Smith wrote:

> Top-Hats & Humpty Bumps also!!!  If you aint Hovering you aint flying! 
> (Oops wrong discussion group;-)

Well, as long as we're voting here, I vote for non-scored Diamond 8s in 
the Master class.  Everyone should just admire the beauty of the 
maneuver and not be critical and judgmental.

Ron Van Putte

>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Keith Hoard
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:39 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .
>  
> I think we should stop scoring spins and snaps, also.  What do you 
> guys think?? 
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>  
> Keith L. Hoard
> Cordova, TN
> khoard at midsouth.rr.com
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> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Keith Black
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:19 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Landing Direction
>  
> Marguerite,
>  
> Actually, I don't think you're alone on this issue. The NSRCA poll 
> showed overwhelmingly that the membership wanted scored t/o and 
> landings as did the public outcry after the majority's desires were 
> disregarded. Apparently even the contest board would have voted to 
> keep the old rule but the question was worded in such a way to confuse 
> two of the contest board members.
>  
> Now that the new messed up rule has caused so much confusion I think 
> everyone is getting so fed-up with it that many would rather have 
> nothing at all than what we have now. To me this has more to do with 
> being sick of all the ridiculous discussions than a real desire of 
> pattern pilots to not score t/o and landings.
>  
> I for one have been paying attention to take-offs and landings this 
> year and find it a real shame that we don't have those beautiful 
> centered liftoffs and gentle climb outs. The new guys coming into 
> sportsman will miss out on this discipline.
>  
> Keith
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>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: MargueriteVG at aol.com
>> To: patternrules at earthlink.net ; discussion at nsrca.org
>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: Landing Direction
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>>  
>> Good Morning...... oh oh  here goes...
>>  I agree it is important to encourage good landings and take  and I 
>> will add to your statement... why not all classes with take off and 
>> landing.  Yes, for the most part the pilots in the higher classes 
>> will ace the landing.   I have seen the higher classes mess up on the 
>> landings (yes and almost hit me while I was in a contest flying)
>>   Take off and landing perfectly all the time is the goal for any 
>> pilot.  This seems to be getting so involved. I know I am out for the 
>> most part alone on this issue and that is  fine with me.  ITs just 
>> that I would like to see the pattern community respect this issue and 
>> set a good example for all pilots joining on to Precision Aerobatics.
>>   A well done take off and a well done landing is certainly part of 
>> flying aerobatic competition in all classes. Its the start ... and it 
>> should be.  I was glad to see someone out there was thinking along 
>> the same lines here.
>> Marguerite
>>  
>> In a message dated 6/13/2005 8:23:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
>> patternrules at earthlink.net writes:
>>>
>>>  > Personally Jerry,  I'd like to see us score landings and take 
>>> offs for
>>>  Sportsman and Intermediate.  Given the k-factor of their total 
>>> schedule
>>>  it's a meaningful part, and the ability to land well in a high 
>>> crosswind is
>>>  something they'll need to be comfortable with, so it's worth 
>>> rewarding ann
>>>  motivating the practice required to do it well.
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