[SPAM] RE: Landing Direction

[Richard Strickland]

Back a few (well--quite a few) years ago when most everyone was flying trikes--just about the time I finally learned how to make a nice smooth tail low and hold-the-nose-wheel-off-the-runway landing--we all went to conventional gear.  Score 'em through FAI--precision all the way through.  Nice stable,  graceful take-offs and landings are things of beauty. IMHO

Richard
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Diamond 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:50 PM
  Subject: [SPAM] RE: Landing Direction


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  FWIW.I haven't really seen many comments from folks that have recently joined the ranks of Pattern.So here is my take.

   

  I started flying Pattern in 2003. From my viewpoint, the scored L/TO has made me work on both. Before competing in Pattern, I wouldn't fly if the wind was above 10mph. If it was a crosswind, I wouldn't fly. Since 2003, my T/O's are much better. I feel more comfortable with the cross wind and don't feel the need to warn the judges about wearing a hard hat when I fly now.VBG

   

  I can say with certainty. If the L/TO were not judged when I was in Sportsman, I had plenty of other problems to worry about. I worked more on the L/TO than anything else because it was easier to fix and still had allot of scoring weight in Sportsman.

   

  Because of my own experience, I'm a strong believer that it should be scored through Advanced. Some of the comments I heared when I was flying at clubs around the country were, "You can always tell a Pattern Pilot because the L/TO are always close to perfect". I heard this at almost every field I flew at while serving in the Navy.

   

  Perhaps from my military background I'm big on tradition. IMHO, if there is something that is good and sets you apart from all others, stay with it.It's a Tradition.

   

  Larry Diamond

  NSRCA 3083

  AMA 5024

   

   

   

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Keith Black
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:19 AM
  To: discussion at nsrca.org
  Subject: Re: Landing Direction
   
  Marguerite,
   
  Actually, I don't think you're alone on this issue. The NSRCA poll showed overwhelmingly that the membership wanted scored t/o and landings as did the public outcry after the majority's desires were disregarded. Apparently even the contest board would have voted to keep the old rule but the question was worded in such a way to confuse two of the contest board members.
   
  Now that the new messed up rule has caused so much confusion I think everyone is getting so fed-up with it that many would rather have nothing at all than what we have now. To me this has more to do with being sick of all the ridiculous discussions than a real desire of pattern pilots to not score t/o and landings.
   
  I for one have been paying attention to take-offs and landings this year and find it a real shame that we don't have those beautiful centered liftoffs and gentle climb outs. The new guys coming into sportsman will miss out on this discipline.
   
  Keith
   
   

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: MargueriteVG at aol.com 
  To: patternrules at earthlink.net ; discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:58 AM
  Subject: Re: Landing Direction
   
   
  Good Morning...... oh oh  here goes...
   I agree it is important to encourage good landings and take  and I will add to your statement... why not all classes with take off and landing.  Yes, for the most part the pilots in the higher classes will ace the landing.   I have seen the higher classes mess up on the landings (yes and almost hit me while I was in a contest flying)
    Take off and landing perfectly all the time is the goal for any pilot.  This seems to be getting so involved. I know I am out for the most part alone on this issue and that is  fine with me.  ITs just that I would like to see the pattern community respect this issue and set a good example for all pilots joining on to Precision Aerobatics.
    A well done take off and a well done landing is certainly part of flying aerobatic competition in all classes. Its the start ... and it should be.  I was glad to see someone out there was thinking along the same lines here.
  Marguerite
   
  In a message dated 6/13/2005 8:23:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, patternrules at earthlink.net writes:


  > Personally Jerry,  I'd like to see us score landings and take offs for
  Sportsman and Intermediate.  Given the k-factor of their total schedule
  it's a meaningful part, and the ability to land well in a high crosswind is
  something they'll need to be comfortable with, so it's worth rewarding ann
  motivating the practice required to do it well.

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