new patterns

Tue Jun 7 05:24:40 AKDT 2005

I understand that many folks read and prefer the Areisti diagrams. To me 
they are a giant step back and are related to hieroglyphics found on cave 
walls. I bought a used Chrysler minivan nearly a year ago and it is still 
not clear to me what all the 'glyphs mean. I can recognize the heated seat 
switch now, but I still don't know which is warmer, the one with three 
dotted lines through it or the one with one dotted line through it.

As near as I can figure, there are lots of folks enamored with all things 
foreign!

John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: new patterns

> List et al,
>
> The reality of this is the work that was done was submitted to the 
> President
> of the NSRCA. Before I was ready to release documents to the general 
> public,
> I was waiting for an approval by the Board. Not that there is anything
> hidden about it. Just that the Board commissioned the committee and it
> reports back to the Board. I have not heard any comments from the Board.
> Once the Board said OK it looks like you fulfilled the charter that you 
> were
> given.....then I was going to release the documents on the Internet. It is
> my firm belief that the Board will be as pleased with the results as I. If
> there were serious issues I would not have submitted the results 
> regardless
> of the Deadline. The old idea of the cook not showing the cake until he
> verifies the kids name is spelled correctly applies here. The Cake is on 
> its
> way the work is complete. I don't want to post something and then have it
> change in 2-3 days. This adds confusion to the situation. These are NSRCA
> proposals and as such the NSRCA Board of Directors should know what is 
> being
> done before its released to the hungry crowd. This is a formality that was
> agreed upon before work was begun. June 1st was the deadline So its been
> just a few days since it was sent out to the VPs from Lamar. Lance I
> appreciate your comments as a member of the Board.
>
>
> For all of you that don't know. The new sequences will be presented in 
> both
> the traditional words as we have used in Pattern and also Aresti as a
> graphical shorthand. IMAC uses this graphical shorthand exclusively. Our
> section of the hobby is a little different, in the way things are done. 
> The
> words and the Aresti in FAI carry equal weight. A main reason for this is
> language barriers. The Aresti is more difficult to read sometimes, but 
> once
> you send a little time with it begins to make a huge amount of sense. We 
> in
> the F3A class flying unknowns use the Aresti to tell us the general
> shapes...what is this thing suppose to resemble? It works well. We as a
> committee felt that Aresti was a good thing to introduce to AMA pattern. 
> So
> I have the program and am currently getting all the Aresti documents done.
> This is in addition to the traditional descriptions that we have had
> forever. So its like getting Peas and Carrots. Both serve a purpose and 
> will
> help define the figures they represent.
>
> To quickly answer a couple questions. FAI current has the golf ball and 
> the
> reverse golf ball in its catalog. It is basically a vertical gold fish or
> Half of a Cuban 8 that is vertical. The 45's cross with the roll elements
> and the loop is 3/4 of a circle. A Golf Ball has the loop at the top. So 
> the
> model pulls or pushes to a 45 upline performs the required roll element on
> center  if there is a roll. Then Loops 270degs to the downline 45 and
> performs the required roll element on center.The rolls cross at center 
> like
> a Cuban 8.  So if you were to draw a Cuban 8 with only one of the loops 
> but
> both 45's...then turn it to the loop side up it looks like a golf ball
> sitting on a  tee. A Reverse Golf ball as in the proposed Masters for the
> Survey is this same figure but from the top and the loop portion is on the
> bottom. IMAC and the current FAI patterns have a gold fish in them. The 
> golf
> ball is a vertical gold fish.
>
> Spring Coil. Basically this a variation on a figure 9....models performs
> 1-1/2 loops at the top of a vertical upline. The figure in question has 
> the
> pilots option for inside or outside 1-1/2loop. Basically a figure 9 but
> instead of 270degs of loop its 540degs. This is 540degs of a circle to 
> come
> back down on a vertical. So its a figure 9 style maneuver that starts and
> ends at base altitude.
>
> Descriptors for new things are following however there are not many new
> figures.
>
> I know these have been flown a bunch. Both the guys in the groups that
> developed each set flew them and I as well as others flew them too.
>
> There are no secrets and everything will be posted and available to all. I
> have been fighting a computer that locks up everytime I open
> word-excel-Explorer-visio. Luckily Email works. I hope Dell will have the
> solution on Friday of this coming week when the new box arrives. Amazing 
> how
> Win98 is not really supported and you get told if your machine is 5yrs old
> its a piece of crap and throw it away. When my new machine gets going I 
> will
> get a finished set of documents to answer your questions. Aresti and 
> English
> explanations will help clarify the problems.
>
> Lastly I want to thank the guys on the Teams that created the sequences. 
> You
> will have all their names and credit will be handed out to the guys that 
> did
> the grunt work. I only gathered the info and combined it. A few changes 
> were
> made on individual figures to meet KF goals or improve the flow....but the
> meat and potatoes work that has been done is the ideas and goals of about
> 15-20 people. I think you all will be as proud of the outcome as I am.
>
> So thanks for the Hard Work from you guys on the Team!
>
>
> Troy Newman
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cameron Smith" <dentdoc007 at adelphia.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:11 AM
> Subject: RE: new patterns
>
>
>> Lamar has them.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:32 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: new patterns
>>
>>  Hey
>> Where can I find the new proposed patterns?Guess I am overlooking them.
>>
>> Jim Ivey
>>
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