Rules Survey - Track v.s. Heading

Don Ramsey don.ramsey at cox.net
Sun Jun 5 12:43:08 AKDT 2005


Bob,
No,
Don

PS: This has been incorrect forever and ignored by the judges.  The 
downgrades under the individual maneuvers referring to heading when track is 
actually meant is ridiculous.

Don

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Rules Survey - Track v.s. Heading


> This weekend, had an interesting discussion with some folks at the Tulsa 
> contest.   My comments related to "track" of loops, part loops, etc....I 
> have always believed that the TRACK of the maneuver was to be constant, 
> either parallel or perpendicular to, the "flight line" established as the 
> parallel line to the centerline of the runway.
>
> In all the manuever DOWNGRADES in the AMA regs, nearly every loop or 
> part-looping maneuver downgrade lists "Heading" changes as cause for 
> downgrade.
>
> As we all know from flying crosswinds, heading and track are only the same 
> in a zero wind condition where the flight path and the centerline of the 
> fuselage are parallel (or identical).
>    When wind corrections get introduced to the mix, the HEADING is offset 
> *usually INTO the prevailing crosswind component*, so that the TRACK of 
> the manuever is maintained.
>
> Can anyone find the reference where the AMA Judge's Guidelines, or 
> downgrades, refer properly to TRACK (as they likely were intended to 
> be!!!) ????
>
> Bob Pastorello
> www.rcaerobats.net
> rcaerobob at cox.net
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Don Ramsey
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Rules Survey
>
>
> Looks like the deadline for comments only in June 7th.  The final survery 
> will be complete around that time and will be voted at a later date.
>
> Don
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: vicenterc at comcast.net
> To: discussion at nsrca.org ; discussion at nsrca.org
> Cc: Don Ramsey
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Rules Survey
>
>
> Don,
>
> When is the dead line to send you the survey?
>
> Looks very good to me.  Thanks for all work done.
>
> Vicente Bortone
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
>
>> Everyone,
>>
>> Just found out that I have about 4 more days for comments or suggestions 
>> on
>> proposals for the next rules cycle. The survey can be viewed on
>> http://www.nsrca.org/competition/judging/judging.htm
>>
>> You must have your comment or suggestions to me don.ramsey at cox.net by
>> 6-7-2005.
>>
>> There is a short dicussion from FAI about the weight limits at the end of
>> the survey. If you would like to write a counter to this, I'll take some 
>> of
>> the comments and add them to the document.
>>
>> Don Ramsey
>> NSRCA Judging Committee Chairman
>> AMA 6096 NSRCA 1506
>> email: don.ramsey at cox.net
>> website: http://members.cox.net/don.ramsey
>>
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