Rules Survey - Track v.s. Heading

[Bob Pastorello]

Should we ask then to change "heading" to track, in the descriptions and 
downgrades where appropriate?
When using the rule book downgrades to "teach", this presents a technical 
problem that makes a LOT of difference...

P.S.
Thanks
Bob

Bob Pastorello
www.rcaerobats.net
rcaerobob at cox.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Ramsey" <don.ramsey at cox.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Rules Survey - Track v.s. Heading


> Bob,
> No,
> Don
>
> PS: This has been incorrect forever and ignored by the judges.  The 
> downgrades under the individual maneuvers referring to heading when track 
> is actually meant is ridiculous.
>
> Don
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Rules Survey - Track v.s. Heading
>
>
>> This weekend, had an interesting discussion with some folks at the Tulsa 
>> contest.   My comments related to "track" of loops, part loops, etc....I 
>> have always believed that the TRACK of the maneuver was to be constant, 
>> either parallel or perpendicular to, the "flight line" established as the 
>> parallel line to the centerline of the runway.
>>
>> In all the manuever DOWNGRADES in the AMA regs, nearly every loop or 
>> part-looping maneuver downgrade lists "Heading" changes as cause for 
>> downgrade.
>>
>> As we all know from flying crosswinds, heading and track are only the 
>> same in a zero wind condition where the flight path and the centerline of 
>> the fuselage are parallel (or identical).
>>    When wind corrections get introduced to the mix, the HEADING is offset 
>> *usually INTO the prevailing crosswind component*, so that the TRACK of 
>> the manuever is maintained.
>>
>> Can anyone find the reference where the AMA Judge's Guidelines, or 
>> downgrades, refer properly to TRACK (as they likely were intended to 
>> be!!!) ????
>>
>> Bob Pastorello
>> www.rcaerobats.net
>> rcaerobob at cox.net
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Don Ramsey
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: Rules Survey
>>
>>
>> Looks like the deadline for comments only in June 7th.  The final survery 
>> will be complete around that time and will be voted at a later date.
>>
>> Don
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: vicenterc at comcast.net
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org ; discussion at nsrca.org
>> Cc: Don Ramsey
>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: Rules Survey
>>
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> When is the dead line to send you the survey?
>>
>> Looks very good to me.  Thanks for all work done.
>>
>> Vicente Bortone
>>
>> -------------- Original message -------------- 
>>
>>> Everyone,
>>>
>>> Just found out that I have about 4 more days for comments or suggestions 
>>> on
>>> proposals for the next rules cycle. The survey can be viewed on
>>> http://www.nsrca.org/competition/judging/judging.htm
>>>
>>> You must have your comment or suggestions to me don.ramsey at cox.net by
>>> 6-7-2005.
>>>
>>> There is a short dicussion from FAI about the weight limits at the end 
>>> of
>>> the survey. If you would like to write a counter to this, I'll take some 
>>> of
>>> the comments and add them to the document.
>>>
>>> Don Ramsey
>>> NSRCA Judging Committee Chairman
>>> AMA 6096 NSRCA 1506
>>> email: don.ramsey at cox.net
>>> website: http://members.cox.net/don.ramsey
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