Principles behind Writing New Patterns
George Kennie
geobet at gis.net
Fri Jul 29 10:30:38 AKDT 2005
Hey Dean,
I hope you're not forgetting that some of us are "the supposed
experts".
Dean Pappas wrote:
> Hey Don,Yes ... or is that I'm just jaded? The old Procedure Turn
> and Figure 8 were "mostly useful" maneuvers.On a windy day, those
> were real skill maneuvers, but space consumptive.In good
> conditions, they did little to help decide a contest.That problem
> is that now one of our design constraints is the lessening our
> noise footprint.Now if we could just convince FAI to make all
> rollers in a vertical plane!You see, even the supposed experts
> don't think some things through.best regards, Dean Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of
> AtwoodDon at aol.com
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 11:21 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: 2007 Advanced Patterns
> Hey Dean, do you think our gray hair (or lack thereof)
> is starting to show? I think Sportsman should try the
> old Procedure Turn and Horizontal Eight (whoops, can't
> do that one, it heads for the judges at the end and
> would be way too long ;-) But talk about 'exposure',
> yikes!!!Don In a message dated 7/29/2005 6:59:34 A.M.
> Pacific Daylight Time, d.pappas at kodeos.com writes:
>
> Hi Tom,I especially agree with the point you
> make about the teaching of the "multiples"
> maneuvers. The third roll is the one that
> demonstrates continued control!The third loop
> adds time (which may have been the problem)
> but it adds exposure! Exposure time, in a
> maneuver, is a large part of the difficulty
> (as opposed to complexity) and this is moreso
> in the wind.Regards, Dean Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
> Behalf Of AtwoodDon at aol.com
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:40 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: 2007
> Advanced Patterns
> Well, I have avoided jumping in here
> for as long as I can but here
> goes. First, the proposals as
> presented are not cast in stone, nor
> mandatory changes to the current
> schedules, they are sets of proposed
> changes of which we are asking the
> pattern community (not just NSRCA
> members) to express their opinion by
> selecting one of the alternatives in
> each class (as a recommendation to
> AMA). As previously stated in this
> discussion group, anyone (and
> everyone) is free to submit their
> own proposed sequences to the AMA
> for consideration. However, we had
> hoped this approach would generate a
> preferred solution representative of
> most of our pattern community and
> help pave the way to improving the
> logical progression thru
> sequences. Second, these proposed
> sequences are not one person's idea,
> they were generated by a committee
> with many hours of thought and
> discussion and actual flying of the
> sequences to come up with not one,
> but two alternatives in each class.
> This was done by volunteers for the
> committee that spent many, many
> hours working on this. I doubt any
> single individual out there would
> have come up with a similar approach
> and results. Third, I was involved
> in early discussions about the
> approach to this exercise and spent
> quite a bit of time discussing the
> intent of this exercise with Troy.
> He and the entire Sequences
> Committee were very focused on
> generating new sequences as balanced
> as possible, but (get this, it is a
> very important part) also generating
> sequences focused on building
> progressive
> basic-intermediate-advanced flying
> skills that actually require the
> pilot to 'fly' the plane rather than
> relying on being able to bang the
> stick over and come out the other
> side of the maneuver. In my
> opinion, about 10-12 years ago, we
> got so focused on making it easy to
> get into pattern with simple
> sequences we lost the part about
> learning some of the flying
> requirements. What happened to
> having to do MULTIPLE loops or
> rolls. Anyone can close their eyes
> and do one loop or roll then recover
> with recovery being the most active
> part of the maneuver. The proposed
> sequences (either in each class)
> provide a logical and balanced (as
> much as practical) progression from
> sets of skill sets to the next
> level. I would even guess existing
> pattern flyers in the entry classes
> may find the new sequences to
> actually be more difficult to fly
> (notice the word fly) well than the
> current sequences, however, in doing
> so they will have learned more about
> actual flying than they do
> now. Sorry for the long winded
> message here, but I would ask
> everyone to consider the intentions
> of the proposed sequences as well as
> the sequences themselves. I believe
> our current sequence schedules
> actually create more of a gap
> between the entry level classes and
> the higher classes because the lower
> class sequences actually lack some
> of the building blocks of developing
> flying skills which forces the
> competitors to take larger 'skill'
> steps as they approach the higher
> classes. The proposed sequences
> smooth those gaps more evenly and
> introduce maneuvers designed to
> enhance those building blocks rather
> than just making it easy to get thru
> the entry sequences. Personally, I
> think the Sequences Committee led by
> Troy Newman are to be commended for
> the thought they put into these
> proposals as well as their personal
> time discussing, flying, reworking
> and finalizing these proposals.
> Obviously thankless work as
> witnessed by some of the comments
> and sniping that has gone on
> recently on this group. Anyway, I
> have made my selections on the
> sequences, hope you all have to.
> Thanks Troy and group, most of us
> appreciate your efforts and
> intentions. Don Atwood
>
>
>
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