Throt/ Rud

Jim Ivey jivey61 at bellsouth.net
Thu Jan 27 07:02:29 AKST 2005


 Steve
 Don't know, but it might be that the boundry layer would skip the wind  right over the holes.
It would be lighter tho'.
I think Ed Hartley does this. He has some kinda secret weapon when I fly against him, or must be the blue fuel.

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
> Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 10:41:47 EST
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: RE: RE: Throt/ Rud
> 
> Would that make them whistle real neat like a Stuka????
> 
> Steve Byrum 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:45 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: RE: Throt/ Rud
> 
>  Steve
> I think you should drill some holes in your prop blades and make them
> lighter.
> 
> Jim Ivey
> > 
> > From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
> > Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 09:36:18 EST
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> > 
> > The question becomes how small a diameter prop and how slow must you
> go
> > for this situation to kick in.  SPA doesn't fly rockets like the old
> > days.  Noise is a bad thing.  4 strokes with larger props slow us
> down,
> > too.
> >  
> > Steve Byrum 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> > On Behalf Of John Pavlick
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:48 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> >  
> > Ed,
> >  Sure, but you can only fly planes like that in SPA!!! (Or Sportsman).
> > My Super Kaos Jr. is set 0-0-0. Just a little bit of right rudder and
> up
> > elev. trim - still tracks down lines straight. I don't mix anything
> with
> > the radio - it's all done the old fashioned way! 
> > John Pavlick
> > http://www.idseng.com <http://www.idseng.com/> 
> >   
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Hartley
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:35 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Throt/ Rud
> > Think about having the trim and thrust where you don't have to do
> > either?????
> > 
> > Ed
> >  
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: John Pavlick <mailto:jpavlick at idseng.com>  
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:13 PM
> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> >  
> > Ed,
> >  Don't think about inverted / upright / right / left like that. It's
> all
> > the same to the airplane. Upright the slip stream hits the left side
> of
> > the fin causing Left yaw. For sake of argument: Right thrust will be
> > used to counteract this. Inverted, the SAME THING happens. Don't think
> > right / left in reference to YOU, think left / right in reference to
> the
> > AIRPLANE. When inverted the slip stream hits the left side (still) of
> > the fin - unless the motor suddenly starts turning the opposite way.
> > Same thrust offset ("Right") required unless the slip stream goes away
> > in a push. Now if there's right thrust, you need left rudder to offset
> > the right thrust which is trying to make the airplane yaw right in the
> > absence of the slip stream air on the fin. If you still want to think
> > about it the "other" way, remember "left" rudder when inverted will
> make
> > the plane yaw to the "right" (in reference to YOU standing there
> > watching the plane). Now I'm getting confused.
> >  If you think about what Chip described: Trim for straight flight at
> > full throttle, mix left at idle. Another way would be trim straight at
> > idle, mix right at full throttle. That's what I've been doing. Same
> > difference. 
> > John Pavlick
> > http://www.idseng.com <http://www.idseng.com/> 
> >   
> > 
> > 
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