Throt/ Rud

[Ed Hartley]

Blue fuel, four blade props and Mode 4?

Ed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Throt/ Rud


> Steve
> Don't know, but it might be that the boundry layer would skip the wind 
> right over the holes.
> It would be lighter tho'.
> I think Ed Hartley does this. He has some kinda secret weapon when I fly 
> against him, or must be the blue fuel.
>
> Jim Ivey
>>
>> From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
>> Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 10:41:47 EST
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: RE: RE: Throt/ Rud
>>
>> Would that make them whistle real neat like a Stuka????
>>
>> Steve Byrum
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:45 AM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: Re: RE: Throt/ Rud
>>
>>  Steve
>> I think you should drill some holes in your prop blades and make them
>> lighter.
>>
>> Jim Ivey
>> >
>> > From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
>> > Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 09:36:18 EST
>> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
>> >
>> > The question becomes how small a diameter prop and how slow must you
>> go
>> > for this situation to kick in.  SPA doesn't fly rockets like the old
>> > days.  Noise is a bad thing.  4 strokes with larger props slow us
>> down,
>> > too.
>> >
>> > Steve Byrum
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> > On Behalf Of John Pavlick
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:48 PM
>> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
>> >
>> > Ed,
>> >  Sure, but you can only fly planes like that in SPA!!! (Or Sportsman).
>> > My Super Kaos Jr. is set 0-0-0. Just a little bit of right rudder and
>> up
>> > elev. trim - still tracks down lines straight. I don't mix anything
>> with
>> > the radio - it's all done the old fashioned way!
>> > John Pavlick
>> > http://www.idseng.com <http://www.idseng.com/>
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Hartley
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:35 PM
>> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> > Subject: Re: Throt/ Rud
>> > Think about having the trim and thrust where you don't have to do
>> > either?????
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: John Pavlick <mailto:jpavlick at idseng.com>
>> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:13 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
>> >
>> > Ed,
>> >  Don't think about inverted / upright / right / left like that. It's
>> all
>> > the same to the airplane. Upright the slip stream hits the left side
>> of
>> > the fin causing Left yaw. For sake of argument: Right thrust will be
>> > used to counteract this. Inverted, the SAME THING happens. Don't think
>> > right / left in reference to YOU, think left / right in reference to
>> the
>> > AIRPLANE. When inverted the slip stream hits the left side (still) of
>> > the fin - unless the motor suddenly starts turning the opposite way.
>> > Same thrust offset ("Right") required unless the slip stream goes away
>> > in a push. Now if there's right thrust, you need left rudder to offset
>> > the right thrust which is trying to make the airplane yaw right in the
>> > absence of the slip stream air on the fin. If you still want to think
>> > about it the "other" way, remember "left" rudder when inverted will
>> make
>> > the plane yaw to the "right" (in reference to YOU standing there
>> > watching the plane). Now I'm getting confused.
>> >  If you think about what Chip described: Trim for straight flight at
>> > full throttle, mix left at idle. Another way would be trim straight at
>> > idle, mix right at full throttle. That's what I've been doing. Same
>> > difference.
>> > John Pavlick
>> > http://www.idseng.com <http://www.idseng.com/>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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