Judge Feedback - Winning... Knowledge or Talent?

[Anthony Romano]

I have used a few experienced volunteers as the designated caller for the 
first few rounds of sportsman. The volunteers can call, coach and nurture 
the pilot through the flight then have some time for resuscitation and 
debrief as necessary.

Anthony

>From: "John Pavlick" <jpavlick at idseng.com>
>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>Subject: RE: Judge Feedback - Winning... Knowledge or Talent?
>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:22:15 -0500
>
>Right on Rick. I understand the issues involved with judges providing
>feedback but I too think it should be a little bit more lenient as far as
>Sportsman goes. It's great if you can get someone from Advanced or Masters
>to call for you (thanks Ed) but this isn't always possible. Sportsman is 
>the
>learning class and it's good to get feedback after a flight. It helped me a
>lot. I expect it to be different this year in Intermediate but that's Ok
>too. By the way, I can fly a lot slower now... Thanks guys.
>John Pavlick (AKA Captain Ballistic)
>http://www.idseng.com
>
>
>
>
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>From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
>Behalf Of rick wallace
>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:49 PM
>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>Subject: RE: Judge Feedback - Winning... Knowledge or Talent?
>
>
>   Hmmm…
>
>   Sportsman as a learning class – how’s that for a paradigm (whatever THAT
>is…) – and I think judge / coaching’s much more acceptable there than in 
>the
>higher classes.
>
>   When I flew Sportsman not too long ago, I routinely asked judges for
>feedback immediately after I landed – sometimes they’d give it – sometimes
>not. Sometimes the two judges had differing opinions, which was always a
>treat.
>
>
>
>   Now, when I’m in the chair, I use a system similar to Lance’s to note my
>perceptions of the flight I’m judging – in the margins of the scoresheet.
>Might help trigger the victim / pilot to ask me about them, and will
>certainly help me remember why I gave that score, if asked.
>
>
>
>   The pattern community just isn’t that big, and the guys in this year’s
>sportsman class will be right beside us in Masters / FAI in a few years if
>they stay with it. We’re not just scoring their flights, we’re welcoming
>them into the community. If we do it right, we’ll be flying with these guys
>for a long time. – I believe it’s possible to be fair and impartial in the
>chair and still provide an item or two of immediate post-flight feedback to
>the pilot. My informal ground rules for this:
>
>   -          Talk to the pilot AFTER score sheet’s finished and put away 
>or
>turned in. The pilot doesn’t get to look over a judge’s shoulder at his
>score sheet ever.
>
>   -          Ensure that the other judge is OK w/ making comments – defer 
>to
>him if he’s a more senior guy.
>
>   -          Never push comments on the pilot – if he indicates he’s
>interested, point out one or two things,
>
>   -          Make comments in a positive manner (“You might try holding a
>notch of throttle at the top of the stall turn, and hitting the rudder a 
>tad
>earlier.”)
>
>   -          Don’t allow the short dialog to slow the pace of the
>contest—the next pilot up has priority once he’s been cleared to start his
>engine.
>
>   -          When asked I’m willing to
>
>   o        either coach the pilot by watching others’ flights (preferably 
>in
>another class) and discussing techniques (OUT of earshot of anyone else, 
>esp
>the flight line)
>
>   o        meet w/ the pilot after the round for a detailed discussion of
>perceptions of his flight- the debrief marks are already on his score 
>sheet.
>
>
>
>   Just my $.02 –
>
>
>
>   Rick
>
>
>
>
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