Technology and Paticipation

Sun Jan 9 14:45:08 AKST 2005

OK but that is not what the rules say! put in a change for AMA pattern and if passed it will take effect in 2007. I'm just conveying the standard that has been set by the FAI Ciam committee on how they are interpreting the rules. The power generation is definitely a different form....The problem is the glow or gasoline chemicals get burned or used up to release their energy....The electric chemicals don't. Rather the energy that is stored in those chemicals gets used up. Over time yes the chemicals will change and not release the energy the same as they once did...But the definition of a battery is:A device for storing electric energy. A battery doesn't create energy it merely stores it and releases it. An electric motor uses this electricity to create power, DO WORK.
The fueled IC engines use the fuel to create the power and DO WORK! Both have to be re-fueled at the end of a flight.

Do you replace the chemicals in the batteries at the end of the flight? No because its the not the chemicals that are being used its the energy that is stored in those chemicals. 

I would agree a Take off weight limit would be a possible solution. But a weight limit is a weight limit. The playing field is equal NOW. 

I'm not against the electric stuff at all. I have been very exposed to it and I have flown it. I feel the same as Jason does it about.

Is it an Advantage- NO
Does it have advantages--YES Does it have some draw backs--YES
Does it fly better--NO
Does it fly worse--NO
Does it have less power--NO
Does it have more power--NO
Is it cheaper--NO
Is it cleaner--Yes
Is it quieter--NO our meters and NATS meters read levels that show its actually the same

Is it different YES 
Is it exciting --YES

I just think we need to not change the game to allow the new technology to take over the show. let everything be used. By changing the rules to allow electrics to weight without the batts is giving the E-Power the advantage..because now the guy can stick a Sears Diehard in it. 

Electric is not at any disadvantage now against glow. Both can be easily made to make weight!
So the argument is price for kits that can do Electric will limit us to PL and ZN kits because they are light enough and they cost too much. Well the Impact is like $800 and it will make weight JAS did it and Kicked my butt with it!

I think if you drive the rules bigger it will make the results bigger. They are what they are...live with them.

Bob has stated he is going to be flying 90 sized ARFy in Masters. If you choose to make this model your electric then what's the weight limit effect you. If you choose to build a PL Partner on E power that's your choice it can make weight too. The Impact, the Lazulite, ZN line has done the Evolis and the Enigma on E-power and they make the rules. The Brio from Piedmont should be in the same class we'll see how things go as the kits become available. 

I think the rules are fine...let make the stuff we want to run work inside those rules....

Its like telling my Denver Broncos sorry you couldn't beat Peyton ...Its OK you should get 25pt handicap. Its like telling the kid that needs his butt kicked in order that he pay attention in school that he has A-D-D and its OK we'll change the rules for you. Its like telling the kid that can't read its not your fault we'll give you a job and McDonalds where the combo meals have a number or a picture and you just hit the key that looks like what you want.

Long live the rules they govern the game an keep the playing field equal. We should not change them to favor a specific technology. Today there is no disadvantage Electric has in the rules department. There is no advantage glow power has in the rules department. The only advantage I see glow having is that its more readily available in the variety of combos that are proven to work. The choices are more varied. And the prices are less per flight for the moment.

All these things are changing. And will be changed by the time your new rule takes effect.

Troy

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bnbsouthwell at bellsouth.net 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 3:45 PM
  Subject: RE: Technology and Paticipation

  "Big thing in the current rules the battery is not the fuel. Its the fuel tank! The electrons are the fuel. So weigh with a  dead battery."

   I believe the shrink wrap is the "tank"  The energy comes from the chemicals enclosed..just like a glow or gas yet they are weighed empty.........Lets start weighing glow and gas with a tank full of the chemicals...

  Bill
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