*SPAM* Re: Rules Survey

Nat Penton natpenton at centurytel.net
Tue Feb 8 16:21:15 AKST 2005


Some of you are over estimating the importance of the airplane and 
underestimating the potential of the pilot.                   Nat
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Southwell" <bnbsouthwell at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: *SPAM* Re: Rules Survey


> Tom how so?  If there are available engines that actually hold up but are 
> a bit more porky....but also a lot cheaper to own both in intial purchase 
> and in up keep how can it lead to a more expensive airplane. Cost of the 
> present designs are due to the materials and mathods of production 
> required tokeep the weight down. A little more room would make more 
> pedestrian material like balsa , ply. and foam to come back or at least 
> make the average builder have hope.
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> Tom Shaw wrote:
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>> You guys need to leave well enough alone.  With the unlimited engines a 
>> higher weight limit is just going to ecourage larger more expenseive 
>> airplanes.  That will amount to fewer flyers.
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Gray E Fowler <mailto:gfowler at raytheon.com>
>>     *To:* discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:25 PM
>>     *Subject:* RE: *SPAM* Re: Rules Survey
>>
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>>     Here comes the dreaded weight debate again....
>>
>>     Consider this-Anyone in the upper level classes would not be too
>>     smart to have a plane heavier than it needs to be.  But, lets
>>     pretend there is a hot new Sportsman named uh lets see..... Chuck.
>>     Chuck tears up 401 after 3 contests, and he is flying his best
>>     airplane that most FAI guys would consider a toy (and I do not
>>     mean the "foamie toys" pictured in last months Model Aviation
>>     being held by  a guy named "Chuck")  and so moving up to
>>     Intermediate halfway thru his first season, last 3 contests were
>>     quite a challenge, BUT he places in 402 anyway!
>>     In the off season, he saves his pennies, keeps his wife happy and
>>     gets a used REAL pattern plane, built by someone who has a slight
>>     heavy hand, and alas it weighs 11.5 lbs. Now this here Chuck is
>>     good and pumped up and I would place money that this theoretical
>>     person could place at the NATS, but his plane is over weight!!!!!
>>     one more !
>>
>>     Sorry Chuck, even though you are flying at a disadvantage, we will
>>     not let you play at the NATS........Oh unless you can spend $2k
>>     more on another plane.
>>
>>     The story you have just read is about to be true, once we do not
>>     let Chuck fly at this years NATS. But at least the French FAI rule
>>     makers are happy.
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>>     Consider a weight change. It does not need to be across the board
>>     and for the life of me I cannot imagine why it needs to align with
>>     FAI.  Chuck will have a 5Kg plane *BY THE TIME HE REACHES FAI-*and
>>     the French can be happy then*.*
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