*SPAM* Re: Rules Survey

Ken Thompson III mrandmrst at comcast.net
Tue Feb 8 17:12:58 AKST 2005


Very true, Nat.

A 600.00 plane or a 6000.00 plane, I'll still be flying Sportsman this year, 
:-)

Ken


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nat Penton" <natpenton at centurytel.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: *SPAM* Re: Rules Survey


> Some of you are over estimating the importance of the airplane and 
> underestimating the potential of the pilot.                   Nat
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Southwell" <bnbsouthwell at bellsouth.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: *SPAM* Re: Rules Survey
>
>
>> Tom how so?  If there are available engines that actually hold up but are 
>> a bit more porky....but also a lot cheaper to own both in intial purchase 
>> and in up keep how can it lead to a more expensive airplane. Cost of the 
>> present designs are due to the materials and mathods of production 
>> required tokeep the weight down. A little more room would make more 
>> pedestrian material like balsa , ply. and foam to come back or at least 
>> make the average builder have hope.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Shaw wrote:
>>
>>> You guys need to leave well enough alone.  With the unlimited engines a 
>>> higher weight limit is just going to ecourage larger more expenseive 
>>> airplanes.  That will amount to fewer flyers.
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     *From:* Gray E Fowler <mailto:gfowler at raytheon.com>
>>>     *To:* discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:25 PM
>>>     *Subject:* RE: *SPAM* Re: Rules Survey
>>>
>>>
>>>     Here comes the dreaded weight debate again....
>>>
>>>     Consider this-Anyone in the upper level classes would not be too
>>>     smart to have a plane heavier than it needs to be.  But, lets
>>>     pretend there is a hot new Sportsman named uh lets see..... Chuck.
>>>     Chuck tears up 401 after 3 contests, and he is flying his best
>>>     airplane that most FAI guys would consider a toy (and I do not
>>>     mean the "foamie toys" pictured in last months Model Aviation
>>>     being held by  a guy named "Chuck")  and so moving up to
>>>     Intermediate halfway thru his first season, last 3 contests were
>>>     quite a challenge, BUT he places in 402 anyway!
>>>     In the off season, he saves his pennies, keeps his wife happy and
>>>     gets a used REAL pattern plane, built by someone who has a slight
>>>     heavy hand, and alas it weighs 11.5 lbs. Now this here Chuck is
>>>     good and pumped up and I would place money that this theoretical
>>>     person could place at the NATS, but his plane is over weight!!!!!
>>>     one more !
>>>
>>>     Sorry Chuck, even though you are flying at a disadvantage, we will
>>>     not let you play at the NATS........Oh unless you can spend $2k
>>>     more on another plane.
>>>
>>>     The story you have just read is about to be true, once we do not
>>>     let Chuck fly at this years NATS. But at least the French FAI rule
>>>     makers are happy.
>>>
>>>     Consider a weight change. It does not need to be across the board
>>>     and for the life of me I cannot imagine why it needs to align with
>>>     FAI.  Chuck will have a 5Kg plane *BY THE TIME HE REACHES FAI-*and
>>>     the French can be happy then*.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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