Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
Don Ramsey
don.ramsey at cox.net
Wed Aug 3 10:42:12 AKDT 2005
Georgie,
Good idea.
DR
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Kennie" <geobet at gis.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
> Hey Don,
> I'm not sure if I'm reading this right or not, but the low percentages in
> rounds
> 2 & 4 in Intermediate, Advanced, and Masters and rounds 3&5 in FAI may
> present
> an opportunity to establish a conclusion regarding who is doing it most
> nearly
> "right" by analizing the panel membership.Maybe these guys have something
> to
> teach the rest of us.
> Georgie
>
> Don Ramsey wrote:
>
>> Wow, looks like judging of Intermediate was excellent. Could be that
>> when
>> snaps and spins enter the picture the score are much more diverse. A 2
>> point spead in the 15% range is acceptable but this doesn't seem to be
>> very
>> good overall. To summarize:
>>
>> 2 pt spread - Average
>> Intermediate 13.1%
>> Advance 24.15%
>> Masters 20.11%
>> FAI 25.23%
>>
>> 3 pt spread - Average
>> Intermediate 2.94%
>> Advance 6.55%
>> Masters 4.87%
>> FAI 5.20%
>>
>> Judging needs some more work...
>>
>> Don
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gene Maurice" <gene.maurice at comcast.net>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:36 AM
>> Subject: RE: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
>>
>> > Earl, Buddy,
>> >
>> > Here it is..............
>> >
>> > Intermediate - 14 Contestants x 15 In-Flight Maneuvers = 210 Scoring
>> > Opportunities
>> > Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 Avg
>> > No of 2pt "Spreads" 26 31 21 29 17 41 27.50
>> > % of 210 12.38% 14.76% 10.00% 13.81% 8.10% 19.52%
>> > 13.10%
>> >
>> > No of 3pt "Spreads" 4 11 6 6 1 9 6.17
>> > % of 210 1.90% 5.24% 2.86% 2.86% 0.48% 4.29% 2.94%
>> >
>> > Advanced - 22 Contestants x 17 In-Flight Maneuvers = 374 Scoring
>> > Opportunities
>> > Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 Avg
>> > No of 2pt "Spreads" 102 69 163 82 77 49 90.33
>> > % of 374 27.27% 18.45% 43.58% 21.93% 20.59% 13.10%
>> > 24.15%
>> >
>> > No of 3pt "Spreads" 23 19 67 18 11 9 24.50
>> > % of 374 6.15% 5.08% 17.91% 4.81% 2.94% 2.41% 6.55%
>> >
>> > Masters Preliminaries - 38 Contestants x 21 In-Flight Maneuvers = 798
>> > Scoring Opportunities
>> > Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 Avg
>> > No of 2pt "Spreads" 130 108 208 107 210 200
>> > 160.50
>> > % of 798 16.29% 13.53% 26.07% 13.41% 26.32% 25.06%
>> > 20.11%
>> >
>> > No of 3pt "Spreads" 34 28 59 24 49 39 38.83
>> > % of 798 4.26% 3.51% 7.39% 3.01% 6.14% 4.89% 4.87%
>> >
>> > FAI Preliminaries - 29 Contestants x 21 In-Flight Maneuvers = 609
>> > Scoring
>> > Opportunities
>> > Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 Avg
>> > No of 2pt "Spreads" 129 155 119 229 114 176
>> > 153.67
>> > % of 609 21.18% 25.45% 19.54% 37.60% 18.72% 28.90%
>> > 25.23%
>> >
>> > No of 3pt "Spreads" 18 38 16 59 21 38 31.67
>> > % of 609 2.96% 6.24% 2.63% 9.69% 3.45% 6.24% 5.20%
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Gene Maurice
>> > gene.maurice at comcast.net
>> > Plano, TX
>> > AMA 3408, NSRCA 877
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Earl Haury
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:31 AM
>> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> > Subject: Re: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
>> >
>> > Gene
>> >
>> > Good info, and pretty reasonable spreads. It would be interesting to
>> > see
>> > like data from the other classes. One might expect Masters to have the
>> > lowest spread, as they are being judged by the most experienced fliers
>> > (not
>> > necessarily judges).
>> >
>> > Earl
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Gene Maurice
>> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:51 AM
>> > Subject: RE: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
>> >
>> >
>> > Don,
>> >
>> > Here's some stats to mull over........
>> >
>> > I've pulled all of the scores into a spreadsheet and identified every
>> > instance where the difference between any of the 3 judges raw scores
>> > was
>> > plus or minus more than 2 points, then plus or minus more than 3 points
>> >
>> > Masters Prelims had 38 pilots actually flying x 21 scored maneuvers
>> > (excluded TO and Land.) = 798 "judging opportunities" in each of 6
>> > rounds.
>> >
>> > Round 1 2 3
>> > 4 5 6
>> > No of 2pt "Spreads" 130 108 208
>> > 107
>> > 210 200
>> > % of 798 16.29% 13.53% 26.07% 13.41%
>> > 26.32% 25.06%
>> >
>> > No of 3pt "Spreads" 34 28 59
>> > 24
>> > 49 39
>> > % of 798 4.26% 3.51% 7.39%
>> > 3.01%
>> > 6.14% 4.89%
>> >
>> > Gene Maurice
>> > gene.maurice at comcast.net
>> > Plano, TX
>> > AMA 3408, NSRCA 877
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Don Ramsey
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:02 PM
>> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> > Subject: Re: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
>> >
>> > We have heard from a lot of Advanced pilots about the judging on that
>> > line.
>> > I would like some feed back from Masters and FAI on the prelims judges.
>> > My
>> > very limited survey seems to indicated that those lines had very good
>> > judging. I had a lot of 5s & 6s and some good scores but overall my
>> > scores,
>> >
>> > in my opinion, were spot on. I'm only asking about the prelims.
>> >
>> > Don
>> >
>> >
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