Ron being removed from judging panel. ?..

[cameron]

 I don't have a pony in this ?"Fight"?. But Im reading this thread, As
others are Im sure.
 So I ask:

 1.How/Who has it been done in the past?
 2.How is it being done now?
 3.How is it supposed to be done?
 4.How was it done?
 5 What is the relationships of FAI.CIAM.AMA.NSRCA?
 6.How does this compare to the way other SIGs. Appoint judges?

 On a different note, Congrats to ALL judges that scored well! It's nice
to know others take the time & care to educate themselves to the benefit
of others. I have met Mike Dunfy. He is always helping pilots. Sportsman
thru elite status, With helpful insight.
 Also want to give another district 3 judge a big "Way to go!". Matt
Kebabjian. For scoring so well in the rankings.
 
 Personally it's refreshing to hear that these guys are giving what they
are!

 Ding ding ding--Fighters back to your corners.

                                        Cameron Smith
           ( pilot who was told early in the game that IF I cant handle
injustice, Pattern aint for you!)


-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:37 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Ron being removed from judging panel. ?.. 



On Sep 8, 2004, at 4:34 AM, Del Rykert wrote:

>     Are you inferring you were never removed from a judging panel.?. I

> wasn't there so lets set all the record straight as long as you want 
> to air the laundry.

Never.

Ron Van Putte


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Cc: "John Fuqua" <johnfuqua at gdsys.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:01 PM
> Subject: Re: European Champs, Alcochete, Portugal 2004
>
>
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Joe Lachowski wrote:
>>
>>> Ron, I like like your idea of giving people as much information as 
>>> possible, too. I followed up on this issue with Eric Henderson who 
>>> was president when most of this occured. Attached below is his 
>>> response to
>>> my question regarding choice of Bob Noll as US judge:
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>>        I would like to point out that it is well documented that Bob

>>> Noll was the NSRCA official nomination for the USA FAI-F3A judge for

>>> the world F3A championships in Ireland that last time around before 
>>> Poland.
>>>
>>>    Dave Brown elected to choose Mike Dumphy. Mike performed well and

>>> because of his performance and that of Earl Haury before him, 
>>> (Pensacola worlds), restored the USA to having a good reputation in 
>>> the global pattern community.
>>>
>>> This was particularly important after the debacle in Australia when 
>>> the USA judge was removed from the panel because of apparent biased 
>>> scored towards the USA pilots. Guess who the judge was, none other 
>>> than Ron VP himself!
>>
>> This is interesting.  I wasn't in Australia. RVP
>>
>>> Dave Brown had a mess on his hands. It was partially fixed but 
>>> needed more consolidation. Dave then followed Skinner's lead and 
>>> chose Mike Dumphy again so we would be sending a familiar and also 
>>> internationally experienced USA judge on the panel.
>>>
>>> Then, with Mike on the panel in Poland, Bob was invited to attend 
>>> and prepare for France. Bob was not funded so it was on his own dime

>>> - there's dedication for you. Sounded like a good plan to me.
>>>
>>> It must be recognized and remembered by all that this is an AMA team

>>> and the AMA chooses who we send as a judge. The TBL assessment of 
>>> judges is only one indicator of judging performance. It is also 
>>> important to experienced and recognized. Bob has done many types of 
>>> judging at all levels including several team trials.
>>
>> If this is the way judges are selected, NSRCA should cease all 
>> efforts to rate judges.  RVP
>>
>>> In a year of elections professional politicians and society officers

>>> are often seen scrambling for some vital "issue" that makes them 
>>> indispensable or invaluable. Clearly Ron has attached himself to the

>>> FAI judging issue. It could also be taken that Ron VP has an axe to 
>>> grind with the AMA and takes every opportunity to take a shot at 
>>> them.
>>
>> I just want AMA to live up to their commitments to the NSRCA 
>> regarding F3A World Championships judges.  If "working well" with AMA

>> means we take what they give and say, "Thank you", don't plan on my 
>> cooperation. RVP
>>
>>> This is not new behavior and it makes it very hard for the rest of 
>>> us who have been working well with the AMA  towards a better SIG 
>>> relationship.
>>
>> My behavior is pretty consistent: I don't take unfair policy and 
>> practices well and will continue to fight them wherever I find them. 
>> RVP
>>
>>  **  Klippped BIG time to repost **  dkr
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