Ron being removed from judging panel. ?..

[Del Rykert]

Well my worldly sources have corrected me differently.

    del

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cameron" <dentdoc007 at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: Ron being removed from judging panel. ?..


> I don't have a pony in this ?"Fight"?. But Im reading this thread, As
> others are Im sure.
>  So I ask:
>
>  1.How/Who has it been done in the past?
>  2.How is it being done now?
>  3.How is it supposed to be done?
>  4.How was it done?
>  5 What is the relationships of FAI.CIAM.AMA.NSRCA?
>  6.How does this compare to the way other SIGs. Appoint judges?
>
>  On a different note, Congrats to ALL judges that scored well! It's nice
> to know others take the time & care to educate themselves to the benefit
> of others. I have met Mike Dunfy. He is always helping pilots. Sportsman
> thru elite status, With helpful insight.
>  Also want to give another district 3 judge a big "Way to go!". Matt
> Kebabjian. For scoring so well in the rankings.
>
>  Personally it's refreshing to hear that these guys are giving what they
> are!
>
>  Ding ding ding--Fighters back to your corners.
>
>                                         Cameron Smith
>            ( pilot who was told early in the game that IF I cant handle
> injustice, Pattern aint for you!)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:37 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Ron being removed from judging panel. ?..
>
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2004, at 4:34 AM, Del Rykert wrote:
>
> >     Are you inferring you were never removed from a judging panel.?. I
>
> > wasn't there so lets set all the record straight as long as you want
> > to air the laundry.
>
> Never.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Cc: "John Fuqua" <johnfuqua at gdsys.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: European Champs, Alcochete, Portugal 2004
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Sep 6, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Joe Lachowski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ron, I like like your idea of giving people as much information as
> >>> possible, too. I followed up on this issue with Eric Henderson who
> >>> was president when most of this occured. Attached below is his
> >>> response to
> >>> my question regarding choice of Bob Noll as US judge:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Joe,
> >>>        I would like to point out that it is well documented that Bob
>
> >>> Noll was the NSRCA official nomination for the USA FAI-F3A judge for
>
> >>> the world F3A championships in Ireland that last time around before
> >>> Poland.
> >>>
> >>>    Dave Brown elected to choose Mike Dumphy. Mike performed well and
>
> >>> because of his performance and that of Earl Haury before him,
> >>> (Pensacola worlds), restored the USA to having a good reputation in
> >>> the global pattern community.
> >>>
> >>> This was particularly important after the debacle in Australia when
> >>> the USA judge was removed from the panel because of apparent biased
> >>> scored towards the USA pilots. Guess who the judge was, none other
> >>> than Ron VP himself!
> >>
> >> This is interesting.  I wasn't in Australia. RVP
> >>
> >>> Dave Brown had a mess on his hands. It was partially fixed but
> >>> needed more consolidation. Dave then followed Skinner's lead and
> >>> chose Mike Dumphy again so we would be sending a familiar and also
> >>> internationally experienced USA judge on the panel.
> >>>
> >>> Then, with Mike on the panel in Poland, Bob was invited to attend
> >>> and prepare for France. Bob was not funded so it was on his own dime
>
> >>> - there's dedication for you. Sounded like a good plan to me.
> >>>
> >>> It must be recognized and remembered by all that this is an AMA team
>
> >>> and the AMA chooses who we send as a judge. The TBL assessment of
> >>> judges is only one indicator of judging performance. It is also
> >>> important to experienced and recognized. Bob has done many types of
> >>> judging at all levels including several team trials.
> >>
> >> If this is the way judges are selected, NSRCA should cease all
> >> efforts to rate judges.  RVP
> >>
> >>> In a year of elections professional politicians and society officers
>
> >>> are often seen scrambling for some vital "issue" that makes them
> >>> indispensable or invaluable. Clearly Ron has attached himself to the
>
> >>> FAI judging issue. It could also be taken that Ron VP has an axe to
> >>> grind with the AMA and takes every opportunity to take a shot at
> >>> them.
> >>
> >> I just want AMA to live up to their commitments to the NSRCA
> >> regarding F3A World Championships judges.  If "working well" with AMA
>
> >> means we take what they give and say, "Thank you", don't plan on my
> >> cooperation. RVP
> >>
> >>> This is not new behavior and it makes it very hard for the rest of
> >>> us who have been working well with the AMA  towards a better SIG
> >>> relationship.
> >>
> >> My behavior is pretty consistent: I don't take unfair policy and
> >> practices well and will continue to fight them wherever I find them.
> >> RVP
> >>
> >>  **  Klippped BIG time to repost **  dkr
> >
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