Ron being removed from judging panel. ?..

tony at radiosouthrc.com tony at radiosouthrc.com
Wed Sep 8 05:55:56 AKDT 2004


Ron was NEVER removed from a judging panel at a world champs.  I was the
Team Manager in Austria, where a judge was removed.  It was the Japanese
judge that was not allowed to judge in the finals, because he elected to
give every Japanese pilot all 10's for every flight, every maneuver!  He
said he "could not fairly judge his own countrymen, so he elected to give
them all 10's so the score would be thrown out".  Hummmm, wonder why he just
didn't give them all zeros, and had those thrown out......

The next world champs was in Japan, and Japan was not allowed to have a
judge there.

I am surprised that someone would make statements like this without finding
out facts first....

Tony Stillman
Radio South
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Pensacola, FL 32505
1-800-962-7802
www.radiosouthrc.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: Ron being removed from judging panel. ?..


>
> On Sep 8, 2004, at 4:34 AM, Del Rykert wrote:
>
> >     Are you inferring you were never removed from a judging panel.?. I
> > wasn't there so lets set all the record straight as long as you want
> > to air
> > the laundry.
>
> Never.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Cc: "John Fuqua" <johnfuqua at gdsys.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: European Champs, Alcochete, Portugal 2004
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Sep 6, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Joe Lachowski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ron, I like like your idea of giving people as much information as
> >>> possible, too. I followed up on this issue with Eric Henderson who
> >>> was
> >>> president when most of this occured. Attached below is his response
> >>> to
> >>> my question regarding choice of Bob Noll as US judge:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Joe,
> >>>        I would like to point out that it is well documented that Bob
> >>> Noll was the NSRCA official nomination for the USA FAI-F3A judge for
> >>> the world F3A championships in Ireland that last time around before
> >>> Poland.
> >>>
> >>>    Dave Brown elected to choose Mike Dumphy. Mike performed well and
> >>> because of his performance and that of Earl Haury before him,
> >>> (Pensacola worlds), restored the USA to having a good reputation in
> >>> the global pattern community.
> >>>
> >>> This was particularly important after the debacle in Australia when
> >>> the USA judge was removed from the panel because of apparent biased
> >>> scored towards the USA pilots. Guess who the judge was, none other
> >>> than Ron VP himself!
> >>
> >> This is interesting.  I wasn't in Australia. RVP
> >>
> >>> Dave Brown had a mess on his hands. It was partially fixed but needed
> >>> more consolidation. Dave then followed Skinner's lead and chose Mike
> >>> Dumphy again so we would be sending a familiar and also
> >>> internationally experienced USA judge on the panel.
> >>>
> >>> Then, with Mike on the panel in Poland, Bob was invited to attend and
> >>> prepare for France. Bob was not funded so it was on his own dime -
> >>> there's dedication for you. Sounded like a good plan to me.
> >>>
> >>> It must be recognized and remembered by all that this is an AMA team
> >>> and the AMA chooses who we send as a judge. The TBL assessment of
> >>> judges is only one indicator of judging performance. It is also
> >>> important to experienced and recognized. Bob has done many types of
> >>> judging at all levels including several team trials.
> >>
> >> If this is the way judges are selected, NSRCA should cease all efforts
> >> to rate judges.  RVP
> >>
> >>> In a year of elections professional politicians and society officers
> >>> are often seen scrambling for some vital "issue" that makes them
> >>> indispensable or invaluable. Clearly Ron has attached himself to the
> >>> FAI judging issue. It could also be taken that Ron VP has an axe to
> >>> grind with the AMA and takes every opportunity to take a shot at
> >>> them.
> >>
> >> I just want AMA to live up to their commitments to the NSRCA regarding
> >> F3A World Championships judges.  If "working well" with AMA means we
> >> take what they give and say, "Thank you", don't plan on my
> >> cooperation.
> >> RVP
> >>
> >>> This is not new behavior and it makes it very hard for the rest of us
> >>> who have been working well with the AMA  towards a better SIG
> >>> relationship.
> >>
> >> My behavior is pretty consistent: I don't take unfair policy and
> >> practices well and will continue to fight them wherever I find them.
> >> RVP
> >>
> >>  **  Klippped BIG time to repost **  dkr
> >
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