European Champs, Alcochete, Portugal 2004

Joe Lachowski jlachow at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 6 17:34:19 AKDT 2004 

Ron, I like like your idea of giving people as much information as possible, 
too. I followed up on this issue with Eric Henderson who was president when 
most of this occured. Attached below is his response to my question 
regarding choice of Bob Noll as US judge:


Joe,
        I would like to point out that it is well documented that Bob Noll 
was the NSRCA official nomination for the USA FAI-F3A judge for the world 
F3A championships in Ireland that last time around before Poland.

    Dave Brown elected to choose Mike Dumphy. Mike performed well and 
because of his performance and that of Earl Haury before him, (Pensacola 
worlds), restored the USA to having a good reputation in the global pattern 
community.

This was particularly important after the debacle in Australia when the USA 
judge was removed from the panel because of apparent biased scored towards 
the USA pilots. Guess who the judge was, none other than Ron VP himself!

Dave Brown had a mess on his hands. It was partially fixed but needed more 
consolidation. Dave then followed Skinner's lead and chose Mike Dumphy again 
so we would be sending a familiar and also internationally experienced USA 
judge on the panel.

Then, with Mike on the panel in Poland, Bob was invited to attend and 
prepare for France. Bob was not funded so it was on his own dime - there's 
dedication for you. Sounded like a good plan to me.

It must be recognized and remembered by all that this is an AMA team and the 
AMA chooses who we send as a judge. The TBL assessment of judges is only one 
indicator of judging performance. It is also important to experienced and 
recognized. Bob has done many types of judging at all levels including 
several team trials.

In a year of elections professional politicians and society officers are 
often seen scrambling for some vital "issue" that makes them indispensable 
or invaluable. Clearly Ron has attached himself to the FAI judging issue. It 
could also be taken that Ron VP has an axe to grind with the AMA and takes 
every opportunity to take a shot at them.

This is not new behavior and it makes it very hard for the rest of us who 
have been working well with the AMA  towards a better SIG relationship.

Regards,

Eric.



>From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>Subject: Re: European Champs, Alcochete, Portugal 2004
>Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 19:38:50 -0500
>
>
>On Sep 6, 2004, at 6:13 PM, Bill Glaze wrote:
>
>>Joe:
>>I would like to raise the idea that things like this, perhaps, are just 
>>what the membership needs to know is going on.  I hope that informing us 
>>is the idea here; I hope that there are no private axes to grind; if so, 
>>they will quickly out.  If there is somebody else running for office, I 
>>feel that it is possible that information like this will make people aware 
>>of just why they should vote a certain way.  I hope.  An informed 
>>electorate............well, you get the idea.
>
>Bill Glaze is right.  My philosophy is, "There's no such thing as too much 
>information".  I wanted everyone to know what was going on with the F3A 
>judge selection for the 2005 World Championships.  I don't like someone, 
>"working the system" to be "selected" for the World Championships, when 
>there are three other U.S. judges with better ratings.
>
>Ron Van Putte
>
>>Joe Lachowski wrote:
>>
>>>Ron could you please leave be already. This is not the place to air this 
>>>stuff.  This is something the NSRCA executive needs to handle between it 
>>>and the AMA.  Hope you're not voting for the incumbent in the coming AMA 
>>>election. <g>.
>>>
>>>Vote Dave Mathewson for Pesident.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>Subject: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 09:58:41 -0500
>>>>
>>>>All - Another e-mail I got  from Bengt-Eric Soderstrom follows.  I find 
>>>>it interesting that Bob Skinner (from South Africa, who is the chairman 
>>>>of the international committee for F3A world championships) said that 
>>>>Bob Noll would be the next U.S. world championships judge, when it is up 
>>>>to a country to submit a list of potential judge candidates and the 
>>>>responsibility of the host country's  organizing committee to select 
>>>>from the list.
>>>>
>>>>Ron Van Putte
>>>>
>>>>Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>>From: Bengt-Erik Soderstrom <bes at wll.swipnet.se>
>>>>>Date: September 6, 2004 9:30:04 AM CDT
>>>>>To: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>>>>Subject: Re: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi again Ron,
>>>>>
>>>>>Again about Bob Noll:
>>>>>
>>>>>The information I wrote (below) I got from Bob Skinner now, two weeks 
>>>>>ago,  in Portugal.. He said that Bob Noll would be the next U.S judge, 
>>>>>and found it good that he was - on his own initiative - training 
>>>>>himself in Poland.. He also had some comments about U.S judges being 
>>>>>appointed for a two-year period, which means that U.S.A will on each 
>>>>>World Champs have a rookie judge, and it would be better if they could 
>>>>>at least be listed and available for 2  WCs.
>>>>>But of course, AMA is the U.S body to make the official judges list for 
>>>>>the U.S.A.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also hope our paths will cross again, why don't you come to France 
>>>>>next year?
>>>>>Would be nice ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>All the best
>>>>>
>>>>>Bengt-Erik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Van Putte wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bengt-Eric - Nice to hear from you.  Thanks for the report on the 
>>>>>>European Champs.  I forwarded it to our R/C aerobatics discussion list 
>>>>>>to let them know about the European Champs and what you said about Bob 
>>>>>>Noll.  When you read the way I prefaced your e-mail, you will 
>>>>>>understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Good luck.  I hope our paths cross in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron Van Putte
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>>>>>>Date: September 5, 2004 3:20:36 PM CDT
>>>>>>>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>>>Subject: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>>>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All - I just got the forwarded e-mail from Bengt-Erik Soderstrom, who 
>>>>>>>is a Swedish F3A judge.  I met him at the 1995 F3A World 
>>>>>>>Championships in Kasaoka, Japan.  We hung out together throughout the 
>>>>>>>event.  We renewed our acquaintance at the 1999 F3A World 
>>>>>>>Championships in Pensacola, FL.  In fact, his return flight was out 
>>>>>>>of New Orleans, so I took him over there a day early and we spent the 
>>>>>>>afternoon/evening at the French Quarter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You will note that he refers to Bob Noll as THE U.S. judge for the 
>>>>>>>next F3A World Championships.  This despite the fact that the list of 
>>>>>>>the top five U.S. judges is just now being sent to the 2005 F3A World 
>>>>>>>Championships organizing committee and Bob Noll is the fourth-ranked 
>>>>>>>judge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This all started when Bob announced to me at the 2003 F3A Team 
>>>>>>>Selection Finals that he was to be the U.S. judge in 2005.  He paid 
>>>>>>>his own way to Poland and announced there that he was to be the U.S. 
>>>>>>>judge in 2005.  He managed to get into all the judging functions and 
>>>>>>>did practice judging with the actual judges.   This is a very curious 
>>>>>>>situation.  How Noll can be so sure that he will be the 2005 U.S. 
>>>>>>>judge is beyond me, unless he has a high-level AMA official as a 
>>>>>>>sponsor (read Dave Brown).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's Bengt-Eric's e-mail:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Van Putte
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From: Bengt-Erik Soderstrom <bes at wll.swipnet.se>
>>>>>>>>Date: September 5, 2004 1:50:59 PM CDT
>>>>>>>>To: vanputte at cox.net
>>>>>>>>Subject: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi there Ron, long time, no see...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think it would be interesting for you to get a small report from 
>>>>>>>>the 2004 EU Champs in F3A, just recently held, all seen through a 
>>>>>>>>judge's eye
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Winner this time was Roland Matt  - Wolfgangs son
>>>>>>>>2nd was Christophe Paysant-Le Roux
>>>>>>>>3rd was Wolfgang Matt
>>>>>>>>It was during the whole competition very close between Roland and 
>>>>>>>>Christophe. It was a tie in the finals, so then the semi finals 
>>>>>>>>results needed to be used.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The Matts were flying their latest: the Lazulite and this time the 
>>>>>>>>electric version.  Weight of their models were 4950 grams incl 
>>>>>>>>battery.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It looks like that this event was really the breakthrough for the 
>>>>>>>>electric power-plants. Many pilots in spite of the very high 
>>>>>>>>pricetag flew electric models.
>>>>>>>>(Electric engine incl regulating electronics, gearbox etc.: About 
>>>>>>>>1.000 US$, Battery pack about 800 $.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I heard that in the next year's World Champs, to be held in St-Yan 
>>>>>>>>in France.  Bob Noll has been chosen as the U.S judge. I met him in 
>>>>>>>>Poland last year, he is a good guy and he is very welcome into the 
>>>>>>>>club.  St-Yan is a small town not easily found on the maps, but it 
>>>>>>>>is situated about half way between Paris and Lyon, right in the 
>>>>>>>>center of the best wine districts in France.
>>>>>>>>If you happen to met him, please give him my regards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Word goes around that the 2007 World champs will go to Canada, we 
>>>>>>>>will see.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hope everything is well with you, Ron. I wish you and your wife 
>>>>>>>>all the best.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bengt-Erik Soderstrom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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