Off Topic - Big Buff Crash
Peter Pennisi
pentagon.systems at bigpond.com
Thu Sep 2 13:28:49 AKDT 2004
Hi Guys
Found the link for the real B52 crash if anyone is interested.
http://airside.paradise.net.nz/video/B52%20bomber%202.wmv
Cheers,
Peter Pennisi
Pentagon Systems QLD Pty Ltd
P.O Box 4280
Eight Mile Plains
QLD 4113
Australia
Phone: 61+0738414234
Fax: 61+0738414264
Mobile: 0408007206
Email: pentagon.systems at bigpond.com
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From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Ed White
Sent: Friday, 3 September 2004 7:02 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Off Topic - Big Buff Crash
A guy who used to work for me flew B-52's. He said that if you get it to 60
degrees bank angle you better have 10,000 feet under you because it was
going to do exactly what you see in the video and there's nothing you can do
about it. Several years ago there was a spectacular crash of a B-52 at an
airshow. Exactly this happened. The pilot tried a low altitude, high bank
angle turn. There is a well known video of this crash, but I don't have a
URL for it. If you see it, pay close attention to the ailerons. Before it
hits you can see the pilot has full opposite aileron trying to bring it back
out of the bank and the plane just continues on rolling over.
Ed
Bill Glaze <billglaze at triad.rr.com> wrote:
Nik:
Thanks for the posting, even if it's a heartbreaker. A lot of friends
of mine have flown the B52 in service. Nobody ever mentioned anything
like the spiral dive problems noted. A friend of mine has actually spun
one of them, (glad I wasn't along for that!) and another has had the
fin/rudder depart the airplane in mid-Atlantic, due to extreme
turbulence. He said the Dutch roll was impossible to describe; but they
got the thing back to the States and a red-alert landing.
In a model size, if it had only spoilers in lieu of ailerons, as on the
full size, the aerodynamics just might prevent a spiral recovery.
Obviously, something prevented a recovery.
Bill Glaze
Nik Middleton wrote:
> Thought some might be interested in this video. It was shot last
> weekend at the british Nationals.
>
> B52 has eight gas turbines. Weather was very windy. Apparently, if
> the bank angle is more than 20 degress, the aircraft will enter a
> spiral dive. Not sure if this is the same on full size or not
>
> rgds
>
> http://www.teambanana.co.uk/b52crash2.wmv
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