Support for Masters Pilots

[Bill Glaze]

Eric:
I agree.  Or, as my kids used to say:  If at first you can't fricasee, 
fry, fry a hen! <VBG>

Eric Henderson wrote:

> Bill,
>        And as you know we submitted it again based on the NSRCA 
> members vote of "YES", and again the contest board threw it out.....
>  
> If at first......
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Bill Glaze <mailto:billglaze at triad.rr.com>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:19 PM
>     Subject: Re: Support for Masters Pilots
>
>     Eric:
>     Your statement below describes exactly the omitted snap roll on
>     the Intermediate Schedule.   Bill Glaze
>
>     Eric Henderson wrote:
>
>>     I must have done this snap maneuver a whole bunch of times since
>>     2002. At first you are uncomfortable because you really are in
>>     unfamiliar territory. Then it gradually becomes routine as you
>>     perfect your timing. Once mastered you will wonder why it was
>>     such a big deal.
>>      
>>     It was designed so that you entered the loop inverted going
>>     downwind. This results in you heading upwind and upright just
>>     as you perform the snap. This was planned to minimizes the
>>     fear-factor and any panic moments.
>>      
>>     As you get familiar with this maneuver you may actually find
>>     yourself adding power before and during the snap. Yes, I
>>     said adding power.
>>      
>>     Adding about 1/4 throttle gives the snap some exit authority. At
>>     first you instinctively do the snap with down-glide-power only.
>>     The result is often a hard-to-stop-accurately snap. Adding some
>>     power seems to give a much better "cone" at the back. I suspect
>>     that this is due to the airflow over the tail feathers continuing
>>     though the maneuver. Try a few going straight and level and vary
>>     your speeds and see if you see what I saw....
>>      
>>     Also just banging full power after the snap doesn't seem to give
>>     as good a climb out as gradually adding power all the way around
>>     the remaining half loop.
>>      
>>     Ref. The length of the 1/4-1/2-1/4 roll, it should be a little
>>     bit shorter than a 4-point-roll because it is a 4-point roll with
>>     one point missing.
>>      
>>     Ref. The reverse KE, beware of trying to do super long KE
>>     components. It's not a requirement.
>>      
>>     Nite,
>>      
>>     Eric.
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         From: Ed White <mailto:edvwhite at yahoo.com>
>>         To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>>         Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:35 PM
>>         Subject: RE: Warning to Masters Pilots
>>
>>         This is very consistent with what I've found.  The
>>         keys for me seem to be speed management and less
>>         aileron in the snap than I was using last year. 
>>
>>         This maneuver is very speed sensitive.  Previous snaps
>>         in the upright Avalanche or 45 deg down were much less
>>         speed sensitive.  I'm flying a Focus II, YS 140L,
>>         17-10N prop and find I actually have to carry a little
>>         - very little - power above idle into the snap.
>>
>>         Though I have yet to make it look very pretty.
>>
>>         Ed
>>
>>
>>         --- Archie Stafford <astafford at 3states.net
>>         <mailto:astafford at 3states.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         > This really is not that much tougher than any other
>>         > maneuver.  With the breaking available today with
>>         the
>>         > large fuselages.
>>         > ...
>>         > This is a maneuver that will require excellent speed
>>         > management, but when done well is a very pretty
>>         > maneuver. 
>>         >
>>         > Arch
>>         >
>>
>>
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