Support for Masters Pilots

[Ron Van Putte]

On Nov 17, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Bill Glaze wrote:

>   I agree.  Or, as my kids used to say:  If at first you can't 
> fricasee, fry, fry a hen! <VBG>

I had to submit the proposal that takeoff direction was the pilot's 
option three times before it passed.  We all know what a hazard that's 
been.

Ron Van Putte

> Bill,
>        And as you know we submitted it again based on the NSRCA 
> members vote of "YES", and again the contest board threw it out.....
>  
> If at first......
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Bill Glaze
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Support for Masters Pilots
>
>
>  Eric:
>  Your statement below describes exactly the omitted snap roll on the 
> Intermediate Schedule.   Bill Glaze
>
>  Eric Henderson wrote:
>  I must have done this snap maneuver a whole bunch of times since 
> 2002. At first you are uncomfortable because you really are in 
> unfamiliar territory. Then it gradually becomes routine as you perfect 
> your timing. Once mastered you will wonder why it was such a big deal.
>  
> It was designed so that you entered the loop inverted going downwind. 
> This results in you heading upwind and upright just as you perform the 
> snap. This was planned to minimizes the fear-factor and any panic 
> moments.
>  
> As you get familiar with this maneuver you may actually find yourself 
> adding power before and during the snap. Yes, I said adding power.
>  
> Adding about 1/4 throttle gives the snap some exit authority. At first 
> you instinctively do the snap with down-glide-power only. The result 
> is often a hard-to-stop-accurately snap. Adding some power seems to 
> give a much better "cone" at the back. I suspect that this is due to 
> the airflow over the tail feathers continuing though the maneuver. Try 
> a few going straight and level and vary your speeds and see if you see 
> what I saw....
>  
> Also just banging full power after the snap doesn't seem to give as 
> good a climb out as gradually adding power all the way around the 
> remaining half loop.
>  
> Ref. The length of the 1/4-1/2-1/4 roll, it should be a little bit 
> shorter than a 4-point-roll because it is a 4-point roll with one 
> point missing.
>  
> Ref. The reverse KE, beware of trying to do super long KE components. 
> It's not a requirement.
>  
> Nite,
>  
> Eric.
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Ed White
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:35 PM
> Subject: RE: Warning to Masters Pilots
>
>
>  This is very consistent with what I've found.  The
>  keys for me seem to be speed management and less
>  aileron in the snap than I was using last year. 
>
>  This maneuver is very speed sensitive.  Previous snaps
>  in the upright Avalanche or 45 deg down were much less
>  speed sensitive.  I'm flying a Focus II, YS 140L,
>  17-10N prop and find I actually have to carry a little
>  - very little - power above idle into the snap.
>
>  Though I have yet to make it look very pretty.
>
>  Ed
>
>
>  --- Archie Stafford <astafford at 3states.net> wrote:
>
>  > This really is not that much tougher than any other
>  > maneuver.  With the breaking available today with
>  the
>  > large fuselages.
>  > ...
>  > This is a maneuver that will require excellent speed
>  > management, but when done well is a very pretty
>  > maneuver. 
>  >
>  > Arch
>  >
>
>
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