Support for Masters Pilots

Bill Glaze billglaze at triad.rr.com
Wed Nov 17 17:19:46 AKST 2004


Eric:
Your statement below describes exactly the omitted snap roll on the 
Intermediate Schedule.   Bill Glaze

Eric Henderson wrote:

> I must have done this snap maneuver a whole bunch of times since 2002. 
> At first you are uncomfortable because you really are in unfamiliar 
> territory. Then it gradually becomes routine as you perfect your 
> timing. Once mastered you will wonder why it was such a big deal.
>  
> It was designed so that you entered the loop inverted going downwind. 
> This results in you heading upwind and upright just as you perform the 
> snap. This was planned to minimizes the fear-factor and any panic moments.
>  
> As you get familiar with this maneuver you may actually find yourself 
> adding power before and during the snap. Yes, I said adding power.
>  
> Adding about 1/4 throttle gives the snap some exit authority. At first 
> you instinctively do the snap with down-glide-power only. The result 
> is often a hard-to-stop-accurately snap. Adding some power seems to 
> give a much better "cone" at the back. I suspect that this is due to 
> the airflow over the tail feathers continuing though the maneuver. Try 
> a few going straight and level and vary your speeds and see if you see 
> what I saw....
>  
> Also just banging full power after the snap doesn't seem to give as 
> good a climb out as gradually adding power all the way around the 
> remaining half loop.
>  
> Ref. The length of the 1/4-1/2-1/4 roll, it should be a little bit 
> shorter than a 4-point-roll because it is a 4-point roll with one 
> point missing.
>  
> Ref. The reverse KE, beware of trying to do super long KE components. 
> It's not a requirement.
>  
> Nite,
>  
> Eric.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Ed White <mailto:edvwhite at yahoo.com>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:35 PM
>     Subject: RE: Warning to Masters Pilots
>
>     This is very consistent with what I've found.  The
>     keys for me seem to be speed management and less
>     aileron in the snap than I was using last year. 
>
>     This maneuver is very speed sensitive.  Previous snaps
>     in the upright Avalanche or 45 deg down were much less
>     speed sensitive.  I'm flying a Focus II, YS 140L,
>     17-10N prop and find I actually have to carry a little
>     - very little - power above idle into the snap.
>
>     Though I have yet to make it look very pretty.
>
>     Ed
>
>
>     --- Archie Stafford <astafford at 3states.net
>     <mailto:astafford at 3states.net>> wrote:
>
>     > This really is not that much tougher than any other
>     > maneuver.  With the breaking available today with
>     the
>     > large fuselages.
>     > ...
>     > This is a maneuver that will require excellent speed
>     > management, but when done well is a very pretty
>     > maneuver. 
>     >
>     > Arch
>     >
>
>
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