Suggestions for entry level pattern plane

Mon May 3 02:32:11 AKDT 2004

>From your short list, the only one that will take you successfullly into
advance is the Typhoon 2+2. The otheres will do well in the Sportsman
class, and will help you get started in the Intermediate, but at that
point you will be competing against all full blown pattern ships, and the
smaller ships are just at a tremendous disadvantage.

The one question I have had during this string, is What do you want to do
in the long run?

 I think that you will start to get mny very different answers now that
you have introduced a truely competitive ship to the options.

If your wallet can stand the hit, and your flying abilities are up to the
challenge, bite the bullet and get at least a good 120 ship. That is if
you can not get into the 2 meter ships'

Since so many of us have moved to the larger planes, there seems to be a
lot of the "smaller" 120 planes available. Last year I had a low time
Elan available, RTF for just $1400. That included all servos and engine.
Add your RX and fly! There should be other offers similar to that now
available.

Good luck, and welcome to the challenge of Precision Aerobatics!!

Terry T.

On Sun, 02 May 2004 21:13:50 -0400 "Evan H. Dygert"
<evand at dygertconsulting.com> writes:
> Thanks for the ideas. I will be starting out in Sportsman 
> but I would like a plane that can handle at least 
> Sportsman and Intermediate with a possible shot at 
> Advanced to save money on buying multiple planes. I can't 
> believe how hard this decision is. Currently, my short 
> list is a Swallow Ex, Zimpro Viper 91, a Zen 90 or 
> possibly a Typhoon 2+2 that another member has for sale 
> (depending on price, etc). These all seem to be better 
> choices than either the Venus or the Tiger 60.
> 
> On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:33:09 -0700
>   Chris Larson <csl at direcway.com> wrote:
> >He there!
> >I know it's kinda late in the thread here, but I just 
> >wanted to offer my .02
> >in favor of the Aresti.
> >
> >First off, I assume you are starting out in Sportsman. 
> > For Sportsman and
> >Intermediate, I think it would be fine.  I flew mine for 
> >a season and a half
> >of Sportsman, before a really good deal on a two meter 
> >plane came up.  Once
> >CG was set, this plane would lock on track and didn't 
> >have any bad
> >tendencies as I recall.
> >
> >I had an OS .46FX in mine.  Not quite unlimited vertical, 
> >but had more than
> >enough power for the sequence.  The only thing that 
> >bothered me was the way
> >they mount the landing gear.  The main gear is a two 
> >piece set up, one half
> >for each wheel.  On a hard landing , I split the fuselage 
> >whilst splatting
> >the gear, if you know what I mean :-)  Then on my 
> >replacement one piece
> >gear, I would bounce every landing, no matter how light I 
> >came in.  Go
> >figure....
> >
> >Also, don't add any weight to the thing.  I brought my CG 
> >into range by
> >putting the battery in the back half of the fuselage, 
> >behind the servos.  I
> >have also seen rear mounted servo's, etc....
> >
> >I sold this plane to a friend I am trying get involved in 
> >pattern, and still
> >fly it periodically.  I am tempted to get another one!
> >
> >I wish you good luck with whatever you choose!
> >
> >Chris Larson
> >D7
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Evan H. Dygert" <evand at dygertconsulting.com>
> >To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 4:24 AM
> >Subject: Re: Suggestions for entry level pattern plane
> >
> >
> >> Wow! Thanks guys. That's exactly what I needed. I will 
> >>be
> >> checking all of these out and making a decision within a
> >> week or two. Thanks again for your help.
> >>
> >> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:11:28 -0500
> >>   Chris Moon <cjm767driver at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Another vote for CA Widebody 60.
> >> >Chris
> >> >
> >> >Scott Anderson wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Evan,
> >> >>
> >> >>Sent you email ...
> >> >>
> >> >>scott
> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan H. Dygert"
> >> >><evand at dygertconsulting.com>
> >> >>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> >>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:38 PM
> >> >>Subject: Suggestions for entry level pattern plane
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>I just joined the NSRCA and would like to get some 
> >>ideas
> >> >>>for an entry level pattern plane. Even pointers of 
> >>where
> >> >>>else to look on the web would be great. After hours 
> >>of
> >> >>>searching, I am not having much luck. So far, the
> >> >>>Goldberg
> >> >>>Tiger 60 and the Venus 40 seem to be the front 
> >>runners.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Evan H. Dygert
> >> >>>Dygert Consulting, Inc.
> >> >>>364 Twelve Oaks Dr.
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> >> >>>Tel: 407-739-8194
> >> >>>Email: evand at dygertconsulting.com
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