An accident that could have been averted.

Bill Glaze billglaze at triad.rr.com
Tue Jun 29 10:22:31 AKDT 2004


Joe's warning is timely.
We've all seen weird things happen, including my having seen a 
transmitter/receiver mis-marked with the wrong frequency.
  Just a reminder to keep heads up and assume nothing.  All we can do is 
try for 100% safety; the actuality will be somewhat of a lesser number.

Bill Glaze

Joe Lachowski wrote:

> Mike,
>
> That very thing was done at this contest. I ran out the pilots list 
> with frequencies from the PASS program and just did that, ran down the 
> list of pilots who shared frequencies and made sure each and every one 
> identified themselves to each other.
>
> Another thing that creates confusion is pilots changing to another 
> frequency from that which they preregistered. Make sure you tell the 
> guy running the computer that you did so if you preregistered in 
> advance. I had 26 pilots worth of info in the computer ahead of time 
> and discovered at the pilots meeting that some changes were made. Oh 
> well, no matter what you did, things are never always fool proof.
>
>
>> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
>> Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: RE: An accident that could have been averted.
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:50:07 -0400
>>
>> Great idea Mike,
>> That actually was done at this contest.
>> Dean
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of mike mueller
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:42 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: Re: An accident that could have been averted.
>>
>>
>>  Joe that brings up a point I would like to see made into an SOP for 
>> all contests. During the pilots breifing before the contest it would 
>> help if the CD would announce all the frequency conflicts and have 
>> those people talk to each other. Many times you don't even know if 
>> there's someone else using your frequency. It's just common sense. Mike
>>
>> Joe Lachowski <jlachow at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This past weekend at a contest, a pilot inadvertently took the wrong pin
>> from the pin board and shot down the pilot on the other flightline. A 
>> few
>> things here to ponder about when one attends a contest when this 
>> situation
>> occurs.
>>
>> One - Double cjheck to see that you do have the correct pin.
>>
>> Two - You can't trust the pilots to take the right pin. Someone in the
>> impound must directly hand the correct frequency pin to the pilot. At 
>> least
>> that was resolved immediately after the incident.
>>
>> Three - This one requires everyone being alert of what is going on 
>> around
>> them and quickly reacting. In this situation the pilot with the wrong 
>> pin
>> could have turned his radio off when people started yelling to turn 
>> off ALL
>> radios in use. This pilots plane was in the hands of the caller at that
>> time. The pilot who lost his plane made a valiant effort to save his
>> plane(on an FM Rx). The amount of time from interference to crashing 
>> in the
>> trees was more than enough time to shut ALL radios off. There was 
>> sufficient
>> time for that pilot to save his plane had the other pilot reacted 
>> quickly.
>>
>> Enough said.
>>
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