An accident that could have been averted.

[Wayne Galligan]

One of the more pro-active measures I have seen in place is what Gray's club
in Richardson Texas does.  They shout out the frequency they are about to
turn on.  May sound kinda silly at first but I am sure they haven't had many
if any planes shot down because of freq. conflicts.  Not to sure it would be
a good idea  shouting out at a contest while someone is flying but it works
for the RRC/Club.

Wayne G.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Glaze" <billglaze at triad.rr.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: An accident that could have been averted.


> Joe's warning is timely.
> We've all seen weird things happen, including my having seen a
> transmitter/receiver mis-marked with the wrong frequency.
>   Just a reminder to keep heads up and assume nothing.  All we can do is
> try for 100% safety; the actuality will be somewhat of a lesser number.
>
> Bill Glaze
>
> Joe Lachowski wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > That very thing was done at this contest. I ran out the pilots list
> > with frequencies from the PASS program and just did that, ran down the
> > list of pilots who shared frequencies and made sure each and every one
> > identified themselves to each other.
> >
> > Another thing that creates confusion is pilots changing to another
> > frequency from that which they preregistered. Make sure you tell the
> > guy running the computer that you did so if you preregistered in
> > advance. I had 26 pilots worth of info in the computer ahead of time
> > and discovered at the pilots meeting that some changes were made. Oh
> > well, no matter what you did, things are never always fool proof.
> >
> >
> >> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
> >> Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> Subject: RE: An accident that could have been averted.
> >> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:50:07 -0400
> >>
> >> Great idea Mike,
> >> That actually was done at this contest.
> >> Dean
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of mike mueller
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:42 PM
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> Subject: Re: An accident that could have been averted.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Joe that brings up a point I would like to see made into an SOP for
> >> all contests. During the pilots breifing before the contest it would
> >> help if the CD would announce all the frequency conflicts and have
> >> those people talk to each other. Many times you don't even know if
> >> there's someone else using your frequency. It's just common sense. Mike
> >>
> >> Joe Lachowski <jlachow at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This past weekend at a contest, a pilot inadvertently took the wrong
pin
> >> from the pin board and shot down the pilot on the other flightline. A
> >> few
> >> things here to ponder about when one attends a contest when this
> >> situation
> >> occurs.
> >>
> >> One - Double cjheck to see that you do have the correct pin.
> >>
> >> Two - You can't trust the pilots to take the right pin. Someone in the
> >> impound must directly hand the correct frequency pin to the pilot. At
> >> least
> >> that was resolved immediately after the incident.
> >>
> >> Three - This one requires everyone being alert of what is going on
> >> around
> >> them and quickly reacting. In this situation the pilot with the wrong
> >> pin
> >> could have turned his radio off when people started yelling to turn
> >> off ALL
> >> radios in use. This pilots plane was in the hands of the caller at that
> >> time. The pilot who lost his plane made a valiant effort to save his
> >> plane(on an FM Rx). The amount of time from interference to crashing
> >> in the
> >> trees was more than enough time to shut ALL radios off. There was
> >> sufficient
> >> time for that pilot to save his plane had the other pilot reacted
> >> quickly.
> >>
> >> Enough said.
> >>
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