FW: Motion to adopt.

[vicenterc at comcast.net]

I am firm believer of statistics. I have not chance to read the program proposed but I am sure that should be based on statistical formulation.  In statistics, more data is compiled more valid will be the results and conclusions obtained from that analysis.  I am not am expert but I would like to see in the future a process of judge selection that is based on all information compiled in ALL contests around the nation.  Yes, I am proposing that all data be compiled and used to determine the best judges.  I don't think that this is very difficult task since the data is already available in electronic format.  We will need to make sure that the CD sends the information to the NSRCA.  I know that there will be many happy faces if some of the new candidates support this effort.
 Mortal guys like me will say that this is impossible.  However, this is very easy task to someone expert in databases and computer programming.  We just need to make sure that all scoring programs produce the data in the format required.  That program will use the judge NSRCA number to send the information to be processed at the end of the year or season.  
The results of a process like this will be of immense value.  First, we will know how we are doing compared with others as judges in the nation.  Second, we will have the opportunity to try to improve each year base on the feedback.  In the nats., we will have more flexibility in selecting judges for different classes and team selection.
Sincerely,
Vince Bortone


  

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> Just goes to show how some people have selected memory loss with regard to 
> the judge evaluation program... Please read the quoted lines that RVP quoted 
> below - Eric H. is VERY familiar with the judge selection process and was 
> instrumental in getting it through the board of directors on 12/10/2002. 
> 
> Why is he questioning it now when he proposed its vote? Oh I get it... It's 
> election time! 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Ron Van Putte [mailto:vanputte at nuc.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:41 AM 
> To: officers at nsrca.org 
> Cc: Tony Stillman 
> Subject: Re: Motion to adopt. 
> 
> [NSRCA Officers] 
> I second the motion. 
> 
> As I explained at the Nats board meeting, Tony Stillman, Matt Kebabjian, Don 
> Ramsey and I have hammered out the skeleton of the judge evaluation program. 
> Here is an excerpt of the VP's column I submitted for publication in the 
> December K-Factor which did not get published. 
> However, it will be in the January issue, unless there's another slipup. 
> 
> "Two months ago I wrote that one topic that Tony Stillman would want to take 
> care of when he takes office as president will be to continue development of 
> a judge rating system for selection of judges for future F3A world 
> championships. 
> 
> "Tony Stillman, Matt Kebabjian and I (with counsel from Don Ramsey) have 
> been working on a judge rating system to rank judges, based on their 
> performance in Nats and F3A Team Selections. We are almost at the point of 
> making the results available. Matt has built the computer program to 
> perform the evaluation and Tony has obtained the results of recent Nats and 
> F3A Team Selections and loaded them into the program. The questions we are 
> currently wrestling with is how many competitions to include and how many 
> judging performances are required for a judge to be seriously considered to 
> represent the U.S. at world championships? For example, should we use the 
> last three/four Nats and the last two/three Team Selections? If we say, 
> three Nats and two Team Selections, how many times must a judge have judged? 
> Twice? Three times? If someone judged all five times, do we take the best 
> two/three performances? We're still pondering all these questions. The 
> objective of the whole process is to get more people involved and qualified 
> for WC judging, as well as get the evaluation procedure and results out in 
> the open so there is no appearance of a "good old boy" selection process." 
> 
> Ron Van Putte 
> 
> 
> Henderson,Eric wrote: 
> > [NSRCA Officers] 
> > NSRCA board, 
> > This is a motion to adopt an FAI world champions judge 
> > nomination process that was explained at the July 2002 board on the NSRCA 
> > process to recommend FAI USA judges to the AMA. 
> > 
> > Tony Stillman proposed that we use scoring records to rate and rank 
> > the FAI judging candidates. I think that this is by far the best way to 
> do > things and is superior by far to what I do today. I just chose the 
> names of > three people who I think can do the job. If you all approve the 
> rating idea > in as a process then Tony and Don Ramsey can act on it 
> immediately to > address the pressing need for our contribution. 
> > 
> > Tony, At my request sent me these words that I am using as the actual > 
> motion.. 
> > 
> > "The NSRCA will select three judges to submit to the AMA for them to 
> present > to the FAI as judges for the calendar year. The process of 
> selection of > judges will be determined by the Judge Certification 
> Committee." 
> > 
> > Do I have a second? 
> > 
> > If this is seconded please vote by this Friday > > Regards, > > Eric. 
> > 
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