FW: Motion to adopt.

[Chris Larson]

I agree Vince.

HUGE undertaking, but the results would be fantastic.  Imagine the ability
to compare yourself to all judges across the country.  Now that's motivation
to better yourself at your craft.

Hmmm..... At the same time, how about a national PILOT ranking system,
similar to the one used in the USTA  ( Tennis ).  I believe they know their
rank in their given class on a national basis.  Might be kind of fun, and
good for us guys who can't travel to the Nats!  We could still be
"competing" with guys from the other districts!

Publish the top judges and the top competitors in each class in the
K-Factor.

Chris Larson
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
Behalf Of vicenterc at comcast.net
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:49 PM
  To: discussion at nsrca.org; NSRCA List
  Cc: Derek Koopowitz
  Subject: Re: FW: Motion to adopt.


  I am firm believer of statistics. I have not chance to read the program
proposed but I am sure that should be based on statistical formulation.  In
statistics, more data is compiled more valid will be the results and
conclusions obtained from that analysis.  I am not am expert but I would
like to see in the future a process of judge selection that is based on all
information compiled in ALL contests around the nation.  Yes, I am proposing
that all data be compiled and used to determine the best judges.  I don't
think that this is very difficult task since the data is already available
in electronic format.  We will need to make sure that the CD sends the
information to the NSRCA.  I know that there will be many happy faces if
some of the new candidates support this effort.
   Mortal guys like me will say that this is impossible.  However, this is
very easy task to someone expert in databases and computer programming.  We
just need to make sure that all scoring programs produce the data in the
format required.  That program will use the judge NSRCA number to send the
information to be processed at the end of the year or season.

  The results of a process like this will be of immense value.  First, we
will know how we are doing compared with others as judges in the nation.
Second, we will have the opportunity to try to improve each year base on the
feedback.  In the nats., we will have more flexibility in selecting judges
for different classes and team selection.

  Sincerely,

  Vince Bortone





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  > Just goes to show how some people have selected memory loss with regard
to
  > the judge evaluation program... Please read the quoted lines that RVP
quoted
  > below - Eric H. is VERY familiar with the judge selection process and
was
  > instrumental in getting it through the board of directors on 12/10/2002.
  >
  > Why is he questioning it now when he proposed its vote? Oh I get it...
It's
  > election time!
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Ron Van Putte [mailto:vanputte at nuc.net]
  > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:41 AM
  > To: officers at nsrca.org
  > Cc: Tony Stillman
  > Subject: Re: Motion to adopt.
  >
  > [NSRCA Officers]
  > I second the motion.
  >
  > As I explained at the Nats board meeting, Tony Stillman, Matt Kebabjian,
Don
  > Ramsey and I have hammered out the skeleton of the judge evaluation prog
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