Zimpro (Aries) "Commercial"
Keith Black
tkeithb at comcast.net
Thu Sep 11 14:34:24 AKDT 2003
I started flying 402 this year and have been flying an Aries. I feel like
it's a great plane for any level and a terrific plane to learn with. What I
think is nice about the Aries is that it will do maneuvers slow and flies
very smooth. The presentation of the plane is beautiful and I really think
it lends itself to scoring very well, assuming that the pilot at the
controls does his job (that's the part that I'm struggling with :-) ).
You can ask Wayne Galligan for his opinion, he started flying an Aries this
year and he immediately became more competitive. He has won all but one
contest he's attended this year. His one loss (2nd place) was to another
Aries.
You'll have to talk to AeroSlave, but unless you work out a special deal
with them they don't sell it with the finished wings. Initially I was
disappointed about this but after building one it became clear to me that by
building it I had much more control in how it came out and I could be very
particular about the small details. Like you I would rather know that I'm at
fault than think there is something wrong with the plane. That's not to say
that there aren't builders that could do an excellent job, but for me
knowing it was right and getting the plane I really wanted made it worth
building myself. Fortunately it's also very competitively price.
I'm in the process of building my second Aries as a backup.
Here's are some pictures of my and other Aries from some D6 contests:
http://www.fototime.com/inv/701A843AD5B6273
Best of luck,
Keith Black
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Loud" <glenn at cs.umass.edu>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Zimpro "Commercial"
> I have no question that both planes will out-fly me! I am leaning
> towards the Aries (the wife likes the looks a bit better)
> with a 1.40 2c. I have seen the Vipers fly and they are good honest
> birds. I have the funds to go with front line equipment and would like
to.
> I am currently flying an english excaliber with a St2300 I like it but
> the wing was not assembled correctly and has a few trim problems as a
> result.
> That would then be my backup plane.
> I like to blame my screw-ups on me not equipment. I am close to that
> with the Excaliber, but want to try one of the new style birds too.
> Does anyone know if the Aries have the option of prefinished wings?
> (sheeted.) (My shop has been in storage the last 3 years.)
> Thanks.
> Glenn Loud
> Dist1 pilot (western Mass)
>
>
> randy10926 at comcast.net wrote:
>
> >These planes were designed with different thinking about the materials
and the
> >wing/stabs. Vipers are all balsa/foam. Also the Vipers use a different
wing.
> >There wing appears to have more chord. I though mine flew slower as a
result
> >of the wing, and gave me a little more time between manuvers. Additional
the
> >wing has more Square inches and the plane is really light. This resulted
in a
> >lighter wing loading.
> >
> >So whether it is better depends on your flying preferences. My Viper IIm
flew
> >402 better than I did.
> >
> >Randy
> >
> >
> >>Bob are the Vipers "better" than the Aries? (loaded question to be sure.
> >>) This is for 402 ama class. Just looking for a new AC for
> >>next year when I hope to be compeating again.
> >>Thanks
> >>Glenn Loud
> >>Dist 1
> >>
> >>Bob Pastorello wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I've had the Viper FG for a few days, and started working on things. I
> >>>just *had* to brag a bit for Dennis Hunt at Zimpro Marketing (link on
my
> >>>website).he builds these beautiful ARC's (like my Viper 202 of a few
> >>>years' back).
> >>> This one, slightly smaller, but with plenty of wing, is
> >>>amazingly light.
> >>>
> >>>The "commercial" is about his jig-building and setup. As received from
> >>>him, the cutout for the stab fit absolutely PERFECTLY, in both
> >>>incidence, and alignment, and the stab fit the cutout equally well. NO
> >>>change, not even light sanding, was required!!! Then the wings had
> >>>exactly the incidence they needed, and are also perfectly square. (I
use
> >>>a mm tape measure to check everything, and couldn't see any slop at
all,
> >>>anyplace!)
> >>>
> >>>If anyone wants an all-balsa, VERY nicely-ARC finished pattern bird,
> >>>give Dennis a call. I can hardly wait to fly an airplane this true.
> >>>
> >>>(The preceding was an uncompensated endorsement)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Bob Pastorello
> >>>El Reno, OK
> >>>AMA 46373, NSRCA199
> >>>
> >>>
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