Zimpro (Aries) "Commercial"

glenn loud glenn at cs.umass.edu
Thu Sep 11 15:25:26 AKDT 2003


Thanks for the input and the great pics. I think I will be ordering one 
in the next 2 months.
(also I was wrong about the name of my current model. It is an 
Excelsior! talk about a mental block. I guess thats why we put the name 
of the A/C on the side of the fuse...)
Glenn

Keith Black wrote:

>I started flying 402 this year and have been flying an Aries. I feel like
>it's a great plane for any level and a terrific plane to learn with. What I
>think is nice about the Aries is that it will do maneuvers slow and flies
>very smooth. The presentation of the plane is beautiful and I really think
>it lends itself to scoring very well, assuming that the pilot at the
>controls does his job (that's the part that I'm struggling with :-) ).
>
>You can ask Wayne Galligan for his opinion, he started flying an Aries this
>year and he immediately became more competitive. He has won all but one
>contest he's attended this year. His one loss (2nd place) was to another
>Aries.
>
>You'll have to talk to AeroSlave, but unless you work out a special deal
>with them they don't sell it with the finished wings. Initially I was
>disappointed about this but after building one it became clear to me that by
>building it I had much more control in how it came out and I could be very
>particular about the small details. Like you I would rather know that I'm at
>fault than think there is something wrong with the plane. That's not to say
>that there aren't builders that could do an excellent job, but for me
>knowing it was right and getting the plane I really wanted made it worth
>building myself. Fortunately it's also very competitively price.
>
>I'm in the process of building my second Aries as a backup.
>
>Here's are some pictures of my and other Aries from some D6 contests:
>http://www.fototime.com/inv/701A843AD5B6273
>
>Best of luck,
>Keith Black
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Glenn Loud" <glenn at cs.umass.edu>
>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:14 AM
>Subject: Re: Zimpro "Commercial"
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>>I have no question that both planes will out-fly me!  I am leaning
>>towards the Aries (the wife likes the looks a bit better)
>>with a 1.40 2c.  I have seen the Vipers fly and they are good honest
>>birds.  I have the funds to go with front line equipment and would like
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>to.
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>>I am currently flying an english excaliber with a St2300 I like it but
>>the wing was not assembled correctly and has a few trim problems as a
>>result.
>>That would then be my backup plane.
>>I like to blame my screw-ups on me not equipment. I am close to that
>>with the Excaliber, but want to try one of the new style birds too.
>>Does anyone know if the Aries have the option of prefinished wings?
>>(sheeted.) (My shop has been in storage the last 3 years.)
>>Thanks.
>>Glenn Loud
>>Dist1 pilot (western Mass)
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>>randy10926 at comcast.net wrote:
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>>>These planes were designed with different thinking about the materials
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>and the
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>>>wing/stabs.  Vipers are all balsa/foam.  Also the Vipers use a different
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>wing.
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>>>There wing appears to have more chord.  I though mine flew slower as a
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>result
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>>>of the wing, and gave me a little more time between manuvers.  Additional
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>the
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>>>wing has more Square inches and the plane is really light.  This resulted
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>in a
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>>>lighter wing loading.
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>>>So whether it is better depends on your flying preferences.  My Viper IIm
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>flew
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>>>402 better than I did.
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>>>Randy
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>>>>Bob are the Vipers "better" than the Aries? (loaded question to be sure.
>>>>) This is for 402 ama class. Just looking for a new AC for
>>>>next year when I hope to be compeating again.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Glenn Loud
>>>>Dist 1
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>>>>Bob Pastorello wrote:
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>>>>>I've had the Viper FG for a few days, and started working on things.  I
>>>>>just *had* to brag a bit for Dennis Hunt at Zimpro Marketing (link on
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>>>>>website).he builds these beautiful ARC's (like my Viper 202 of a few
>>>>>years' back).
>>>>>          This one, slightly smaller, but with plenty of wing, is
>>>>>amazingly light.
>>>>>
>>>>>The "commercial" is about his jig-building and setup.  As received from
>>>>>him, the cutout for the stab fit absolutely PERFECTLY, in both
>>>>>incidence, and alignment, and the stab fit the cutout equally well.  NO
>>>>>change, not even light sanding, was required!!!  Then the wings had
>>>>>exactly the incidence they needed, and are also perfectly square. (I
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>>>>>a mm tape measure to check everything, and couldn't see any slop at
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>all,
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>>>>>anyplace!)
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>>>>>If anyone wants an all-balsa, VERY nicely-ARC finished pattern bird,
>>>>>give Dennis a call.  I can hardly wait to fly an airplane this true.
>>>>>
>>>>>(The preceding was an uncompensated endorsement)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob Pastorello
>>>>>El Reno, OK
>>>>>AMA 46373, NSRCA199
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