direct orders

[Tony Stillman]

Wayne:

I think the lite ply is fine.

Tony Stillman
Radio South
3702 N. Pace Blvd.
Pensacola, FL 32505
1-800-962-7802
www.radiosouthrc.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: direct orders


> Wow!!!  I guess that goes to show how much pressure is exerted on the end
of
> the wing tube.   I have always used 1/8 lt ply rib from l.e to the
trailing
> edge at the aileron.  So far so good.   But I don't do near the snapping
> type of maneuvers that you're used to doing.
>
> Wayne
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tony Stillman" <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: direct orders
>
>
> > Wayne:
> >
> > Actually, it was not a glue issue.  The problem was that, at that time,
PL
> > was using 1/8" vertical grain BALSA for the outside support for the wing
> > socket.  Keep in mind that this was a retract airplane....
> >
> > The balsa split and the wing actually ripped off the fuse in flight.
The
> > wing tube and socket were still on the fuse, and were not even damaged
in
> > the crash.
> >
> > After talking to Quique Somenzini about it, he told me his prebuilt
> > Excellence was the same way.  He told me he caught it after a flight.
He
> > said the wing tips could be moved about 3" up and down at the tips!
> >
> > Later, he took the wing panels to France and showed PL the problem.
They
> > then changed the manufacturing process and started using plywood...
> > As this is pre-built into the model when you get it, it's kinda hard to
> cut
> > it open to check it out.....
> >
> > My kit was made during the same production run as Quique's.
> >
> >
> > Tony Stillman
> > Radio South
> > 3702 N. Pace Blvd.
> > Pensacola, FL 32505
> > 1-800-962-7802
> > www.radiosouthrc.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: direct orders
> >
> >
> > > Tony,
> > >
> > > The glue gods where not with you that day.
> > >
> > > Pro_Bond forever.....
> > >
> > > WG
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Tony Stillman" <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: direct orders
> > >
> > >
> > > > After I had the Excellence blow off a wing panel in flight, and PL
> only
> > > > wanted to give me 10% off of a new kit, I decided that I really
needed
> > to
> > > > design my own airplane so that I could get one when I wanted one,
and
> > > build
> > > > it so it would stay together.
> > > >
> > > > The Smaragd that I am flying is good, but I will be happy when my
new
> > > > Panacea is in the air in early 2004.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tony Stillman
> > > > Radio South
> > > > 3702 N. Pace Blvd.
> > > > Pensacola, FL 32505
> > > > 1-800-962-7802
> > > > www.radiosouthrc.com
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Troy Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
> > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: direct orders
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > > PL is not the best thru such an event. Their attitude if you have
> not
> > > > > already received it is "you signed for the box" meaning the box
was
> in
> > > an
> > > > > undamaged state. If the box was damaged why did you sign for it?
> > > > Therefore
> > > > > it is up to you and the freight company. The freight company will
> tell
> > > you
> > > > > the same and since the box was signed for in an un-damaged state
the
> > > > > contents should be undamaged as well if packaged properly.  This
> > becomes
> > > a
> > > > > big issue in that the boxes are not packaged very well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here in the USA Central Hobbies repackages the kits and does a
> pretty
> > > good
> > > > > job of dealing with the issue. The problem is our planes are
> > > > > fragile...especially these French fuses. If not packaged properly
> the
> > > UPS,
> > > > > FedEX and so on will break, bust, crush, damage, and puncture
> anything
> > > > they
> > > > > get their hands on.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the great reason to go through the local distributors...I
> > > > understand
> > > > > you are in a bad position being there is not a continental
> distributor
> > > for
> > > > > you. Perhaps this will advise others of the issues at hand. Good
> Luck
> > > with
> > > > > your issue. I hate to say that it doesn't sound good from those
who
> > have
> > > > > received kits direct here in the USA.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > TN
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
> > > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:12 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: direct orders
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How was Pl through out all this Steve?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > From: Patternrules at aol.com[SMTP:Patternrules at aol.com]
> > > > > > > Reply To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2003 5:55
> > > > > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: direct orders
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had 2 Smaragd fuses damaged the 3rd one was in great shape I
> had
> > > the
> > > > > > > distributor pack as my specs and paid extra to make sure that
it
> > > would
> > > > > > > come in OK and it is a no brainer to deal with freight ins.
was
> my
> > > > > > > experience anyway, time getting another fuse will probably be
> the
> > > big
> > > > > > > thing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve Maxwell
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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