Bigger Issues

[Troy Newman]

I understand you guys want suceed (sp?)  from the union...Hey living here in
Atlanta I can understand that a little.

But here is a problem with events that don't sanctions. As a member of the
F3A team selection program, this past cycle candidates were required to
compete is 5 contests in order to qualify for the Finals event. Now this
setup is to help promote F3A on a local contest level. We had a year plus
some to get these 5 contests in....I know of one guy that had to travel
about 1000 miles to an event....another event for this card punch.....The
reason he had to travel this long distance to a contest is because a local
contest in his district which he attended last fall was not a sanctioned
event. Therefore it could not be counted. He almost missed the TSC because
of a NSRCA run contest that was not sanctioned by AMA.

Now as for John's comment about F3A guys not supporting local events....I
don't know what to say other than I personally attended 13 contests this
year! 11 of which were local events. These were from California, Arizona,
Nevada, out to Florida, Alabama, Carolinas, and Indiana.

Some of my fellow F3A competitors don't do this. I wish they did!

In the next Team Selection cycle if I attend an event to get my card punched
and find out its not a AMA event and therefore nothing more than a fun
fly....I doubt I will ever return to that contest out of frustration.


Just some of the results of these actions. You can take your marbles and go
home...but I think its foolish.

Troy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Glaze" <billglaze at triad.rr.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Bigger Issues


> Jerry:
> Recently a good sized contest was held near here in NC with no sanction,
> because someone dropped the ball.  It wasn't the end of the world.  It
> was explained to the pilots, and nobody packed up and went home.
> BTW: e-mail me off list with your phone number and when you would be
> available to talk.  You asked for a briefing by someone who was on the
> IMAC board when we were able to liberate ourselves from some of the AMA
> oversight.  I was on the IMAC board at that time, and can explain the
> chronology.  It would require a lot of typing, but I can explain
> verbally in not too much time.
> Bill Glaze
>
>
> Jerry Budd wrote:
>
> > Gene,
> >
> > This is exactly my point.  NSRCA only needs AMA for insurance
> > purposes, and that can be handled by requiring AMA membership to fly
> > in an NSRCA sanctioned event, just as it is now.  There is really no
> > need to apply/obtain for an AMA sanction (even a Class C event
> > sanction) unless extending the insurance to the site owner for the
> > event is a concern (most of the time it's not needed as most events
> > are hosted at AMA Club fields).  F3A events can have a separate AMA
> > sanction if needed to ensure the participants in the F3A Team
> > Selection Program can get their qualification points.
> >
> > There seems to be a misconception that I'm advocating that NSRCA
> > "break-away" from AMA.  That's not exactly accurate.  I just don't
> > think that NSRCA needs AMA to tell NSRCA how to run a pattern contest,
> > what maneuvers should be flown, or how often the sequence should
> > change.  NSRCA can best decide that for themselves.
> >
> > As far as having an AMA sanction goes, I've never had anyone ever ask
> > to see it (other than to get the sanction# to put on the form we mail
> > back to AMA).
> >
> > Am I wrong on this?
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >> Ron,
> >>
> >> Why is insurance an issue? If I'm an AMA member, I'm insured. If I
> >> hold a
> >> contest at my AMA Chartered club's field, I'm insured. I don't
> >> believe there
> >> is anything that prohibits us from having a "non-sanctioned" event
> >> and still
> >> being covered, as long as everyone meets the AMA's requirements for
> >> coverage
> >> to be inforce. But that's true even if the event IS sanctioned.
> >>
> >> If I didn't post a sanction at the contest would anyone ask to see
> >> it? If I
> >> advertised non-sanctioned would anyone NOT come?
> >>
> >> Gene Maurice
> >> gene.maurice at comcast.net
> >> Plano, TX
> >> AMA 3408
> >> NSRCA 877
> >
> >
>
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