Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????

[Wayne Galligan]

This has been resolved in the past at the cd's discretion by scoring like
FAI.  Especially when it was windy or hard cross wind.

Wayne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????


> There's another reason for NOT scoring these worth considering.
>
> Anyone ever noticed how quickly FAI gets into the air?  And DOWN, after
they
> exit the box?  If you have really crowded contests where moving the lines
is
> an issue, think about how many seconds each pilot burns while carriers are
> parking planes on the runway, or awaiting the current guy setting up,
taking
> all the time in the world to set up that "perfect landing"....
>
> There's a bunch of time there that could be saved, if folks just had to
get
> out there, blast off, and announce the box....and this reduces JUDGE
> workload, also.
>
> What's the downside of urging repeal of the scoring of takeoffs and
> landings?
>
> Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
> NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
> rcaerobob at cox.net
> www.rcaerobats.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Budd" <jbudd at QNET.COM>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????
>
>
> > >But flight is not attainable without take off and landing.  So I say
keep
> > >the scoring.
> >
> > Neither takeoffs nor landings are aerobatic maneuvers (Tom Weedon's
> > and Evil Eric's not withstanding!) and contribute little to nothing
> > to the competition.  Scored takeoff's and landings are a carryover
> > from the days when simply getting through the pattern without a
> > flameout was an accomplishment (remember the touch-and-go in the old
> > "B" pattern?  Anybody want to bring that back?!!).
> >
> > The reward for a good takeoff is that you get to fly your flight.
> > The reward for a good landing is that you get to fly the next flight.
> > Nothing more, nothing less.  Anything beyond that should be a matter
> > of pride.
> >
> > BTW - There is a safety issue to this.  Ever see the caller standing
> > out on the runway holding the plane for a minute or more because it
> > won't quit rolling?  (gotta get that last point... it could make the
> > difference between winning or losing!).  Eliminate the scored takeoff
> > and landing and that ridiculous problem completely goes away.
> >
> > So I say lose the scoring.   : )
> >
> >
> > >nd centering on the runway.   I know the ONLY way I could get a ten is
if
> I
> > >put it right on the center line and center box with a 3 pt touchdown or
> on
> > >the takeoff.  This was outlined by the CD at two different contests to
> score
> >
> > Wayne, I think you just validated my point (I'm pretty sure that a "3
> > pt touchdown" isn't a scorable metric).
> >
> > Jerry
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