Judging behaviour

Terry Terrenoire amad2terry at juno.com
Thu Jan 23 02:22:49 AKST 2003


I'd like to add to Rick Wallace' comments.

I too will frequently ask the judges for comments following a flight, and
as a judge will make comments to a flier if I have noticed something that
seems to be cronic, or easily fixed, or at least worked on.

I, for one, reallly appreciate constructive criticism from a more
experienced pilot, or judge. As Rick said, we don't get a chance to fly
with other pattern fliers very often. As far as someone being "upset" at
having judges "coach"! Come on, the coaching is coming after the flight,
the pilot will probably not fly in front of that judge again, for that
contest, and he will provavly offer similar assistance to the other
competitors. 

Maybe I have a little different slant on competition, but I only look at
it as a way to improve my flying, and to have a good time. Now, if we are
talking about the NATS, that's a different story, but at local meets, the
more help I can get the better!!

Terry T.


On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:11:25 +1000 PENNISI Peter
<Peter.Pennisi at publicworks.qld.gov.au> writes:
> 
> I recently attended a competition in which the conduct of a 
> particular judge
> left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. As I turned towards the 
> judges after
> completing my flight this particular person (experienced F3A judge) 
> made a
> number of comments about my flight being flown too far out and that 
> he
> docked several points per manoeuvre. These comments were made in 
> the
> presence of the other two judges.
> 
> I am not going to argue that I was or wasn't. The concern I had with 
> this
> behaviour was he could have influenced the other judges to think the 
> same as
> they had less experience. This type of conduct should not be allowed 
> to
> happen. Judges should be able to judge a flight based on their own
> perception and interpretation of rules etc. If this particular 
> person
> thought that I should be docked 2 points per manoeuvre then that 
> should be
> his opinion only. 
> 
> The issue here is that most of us on this list judge and fly 
> aerobatics.
> Everyone deserves to be judged fairly and unbiased by people who 
> have their
> own perception on how a flight should look and should be flown. Why 
> have 3
> or 5 judges? 
> 
> If you looked at this incident from another angle some of my 
> competitors may
> say that I was being coached by a judge which could raise another 
> set of
> problems.
> 
> All in all, the fact he said anything was wrong. 
> 
> Just my thoughts
> 
> Peter     
> 
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