Original Pattern Model

[Bill Glaze]

Jim:
Close, but off by a year.  Howard Bonner won in 1956 with his design
Smog Hog in Dallas; Dunham won in 1957 with Fred Dunn's designed Astro
Hog.  He also won in 1958, and 1959.  After the contest, (1959) Bob told
us that he was retiring from the Nats.  He said "I don't think it's good
for anybody to win more than 3 times; it's not good for the sport.  And,
I'm actually competing with my customers."
With respect to the Astro Hog, Fred always maintained that "all the
Astro Hog is, is a low wing Smog Hog."  Maybe so, but worlds apart in
performance.
BTW: Fred's first design Astro Hog was quite different from the eventual
design.  I was there for the testing.  Disaster!
Echoes from the past.

Bill Glaze

JOddino wrote:

> My standard answer is that all planes are pattern airplanes, some just
> do it better than others.  As far as competition goes they started
> long before the Orion.  The Smog Hog won in 1955 I believe and the
> Astro Hog in 56.  I had an Orion that I must have built in 1961 and
> yes it did have proportional control.Jim
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: Ron Van Putte
>      To: discussion at nsrca.org
>      Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:59 PM
>      Subject: Re: Original Pattern Model
>       The question assumes that a particular design suddenly
>      appeared.  They were flying aerobatic airplanes in the late
>      50s and early 60s.  I started flying in 1954, but I can't
>      remember anyone trying to do more than a simple loop for
>      many years.  The radios just weren't up to the task.
>
>      The first airplane/radio combinations I saw which were
>      aerobatic enough to be called Pattern airplanes was in about
>      1960 or 1961.  They were the Astro Hog, Smog Hog and the
>      Stormer.  Later I saw the Orion and Taurus at an
>      invitational in Detroit about 1963.  This remembering stuff
>      has dried out my brain; I think I'll have a beer.
>
>      Ron Van Putte
>
>      Rcmaster199 at aol.com wrote:
>
>     > In a message dated 8/4/2003 1:51:51 PM Eastern Daylight
>     > Time, randy10926 at comcast.net writes:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > > Subj:Original Pattern Model
>     > > Date:8/4/2003 1:51:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>     > > From:randy10926 at comcast.net
>     > > Reply-to:discussion at nsrca.org
>     > > To:discussion at nsrca.org
>     > > Sent from the Internet
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Well what was the original pattern model?
>     > >
>     > > Was it the Orion?  A gentleman from NVRC scratch build
>     > > one of these and here is
>     > > a photo of them. http://www.1nvrc.com/.  It has ben flown
>     > > with a green head 45
>     > > and a veco 45 (our however you spell it).
>     > >
>     > > Randy Hatfield
>     >
>     > Randy, they have flown aerobatics in some form of
>     > precision and sequence order, for much longer than the
>     > Orion. If you are talking with digital proportional full
>     > house control, then you may be right. Don Lowe would know
>     > possibly, or may be Ron Van Putte
>     >
>     > There were early designs that did this, by Hal DeBolt,
>     > Carl Goldberg and several other Pattern pioneers, with
>     > escapement type control, not propo.
>     >
>     > regards
>     >
>     > Matt K
>
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