Quiet pattern planes

[Acrophobic]

The reason pattern is so quiet is the pattern community implemented rules that gave you no choice.  Be quiet or don't compete.  IMAC is now starting down the same path.  Just like pattern, IMAC won't get quiet overnight.  These airplanes (pattern and IMAC) eat up a lot of airspace.  Couple that with a full weekend, daybreak to sunset, of nonstop flying, you will get hammered by the neighbors if not quiet.  The general sport flyers, who most of all just likes to burn fuel every chance they get, either don't want to spend the extra money, or don't have the extra money to get quiet.  When they see a nice quiet pattern plane whispering through the air, all they see is $$$$$$$$$$.  So, how do we set an example for people to follow?  Do we look down on everyone else and say amongst ourselves "I wish they would be more like us so we don't lose our field."  Or do we pro-actively set an example at the field by lets say, purchasing a sport plane and making it quiet with readily available equipment and get out and tear up the sky with them.  You could also pass the transmitter around and let people see what an awesome experience flying a super quiet pattern bird is.  Walk around the pits and show some interest in peoples sport planes, and at the same time let people know how cool it would be if it were quiet instead of how stupid noisy it is.   At the last TOC, there was a .40 sized airplane flying one evening after the event ended amongst the Hacker electric powered demo planes.  I was convinced it was electric too until it flew by close enough to see the exhaust trail behind the pipe.  It was amazingly quiet.  I'm still in search of that exhaust system today.


Anyway, I could go on and on.  All I'm saying is if we want to keep peace with the neighbors, lets set a positive example that people want to follow instead of making them follow.  Be pro-active, not reactive.


Regards,
Adam Quennoz
AMA 383866
IMAC 2439
NSRCA 3546
President: Bolivar Sport Flyers R/C club



From: ronlock 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 12:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Quiet pattern planes


  I'm with you on  a  lot  of  this.  I too, wish the pattern example 
  would have a bigger impact on the rest of the communities.  
  There  are  some subtle improvements, more clubs now have 
  noise specs than 15 years ago.  Several sport  engines,  while 
  still not  "quiet", are quieter  than they were  15 years ago.   
  There is more quiet related mufflers, mounts,  props, etc. on 
  the market than years ago.  Mainly I'm supporting the good 
  example we are  putting out there.

  Later, Ron Lockhart
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 1:22 PM
    Subject: Re: Quiet pattern planes


    Yea, yea. I was there at the inception of "QUIET" too. And cut my teeth on it as well

    What I'm saying is that
    with the exception of a couple gliders and a few electrics, hardly anyone else is trying to go real quiet. And the pattern community has been preaching it and livimg it for 15+ years now. 

    The message isn't getting through to the sport flier especially when he shows up with the biggest, baddest noise box around. How can he do that? Well, it's available, thats how. To belabor the obvious, just look in any magazine, including the AMA's own. The AD $ pay their bills on one hand, and cause their demise of their (our) flying fields on the other. Go figure!!



    Matt Kebabjian


      Subj:Re: Quiet pattern planes 
      Date:4/19/2003 12:50:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time
      From:ronlock at comcast.net
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      To:discussion at nsrca.org
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      I'm proud to be part of the pattern community that led the way to
      quiet high performance aerobatics.  The benefits of quiet are difficult
      to quantify, but I think there are many.
      Later,   Ron  Lockhart



        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: RUDDERCABL at aol.com 
        To: discussion at nsrca.org 
        Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 12:55 AM
        Subject: Re: Quiet pattern planes


        In a message dated 4/18/2003 4:39:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Rcmaster199 at aol.com writes:



          Folks, I think we may have been duped on this noise thing. I love my stealthy pattern plane, but nobody else does. unless I'm flying alone,  nobody else cares whetehr I hear my plane or not!

        !

          Matt
          
          I don't think we have been "duped" on having quiet planes. There was a time in my life that hearing screaming engines was a joy , however , I now much more prefer the   lower volume of our planes . To me , the tone of a muffled four stroke at full throttle is the sweetest sound in our hobby . 

        I agree that nobody else cares whether or not I can hear my plane . On the other hand , should noise become an issue with the nieghbors around our field , everyone would care whether or not I could hear my plane.

        Robert Gainey




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