Outside the 9 dots - again

[Tony Stillman]

I don't like it.  It would be just like having one judge at the NATS.  Talk
about pressure as a judge!

Tony Stillman
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Del Rykert" <drykert at rochester.rr.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Outside the 9 dots - again


> I didn't realize it would mean only one judge per maneuver.  Didn't know
if
> that was acceptable to the majority to have everything resting on that one
> judge. Personally I don't see a problem with that approach. It would solve
> some other problems for certain.
>      Del
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:27 AM
> Subject: RE: Outside the 9 dots - again
>
>
> > Del this is the same number of judges as we use today at local contests.
> > Were you responding to a different note?
> >
> > Eric.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Del Rykert [mailto:drykert at rochester.rr.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:19 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Outside the 9 dots - again
> >
> >
> > Not 2 b a Smart a** but will this leave anyone to fly? It does sound
like
> a
> > great solution and has merit except for the real shortage of manpower
when
> > you CD a contest.
> >
> >     Del
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:22 AM
> > Subject: Outside the 9 dots - again
> >
> >
> > > If we copy FAI worlds judge team methodology we could use three
judges.
> > >
> > > A version of this would be:-
> > >
> > > One judge who sits at the left and judges right hand turnarounds. One
> who
> > > sits at the right and judges left side turnarounds. And one in the
> middle
> > > who only judges center maneuvers.
> > >
> > > NO SCRIBES REQUIRED at all!
> > >
> > > If you use two judges then do one turnaround judge and one center
judge.
> > You
> > > could swap the rolls in the next round and have, in essence two new
> > judges.
> > >
> > > The system gives you time to read the next maneuver, judge the
maneuver
> > and
> > > score it at your leisure. It also allows less confident judges, (to
get
> > > their feet wet, to judge higher level turnaround maneuvers with a more
> > > experienced judge on the center.
> > >
> > > Anyone want to try it out at their next contest. BE BOLD
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Eric.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP
> > > [mailto:James.Woodward2 at edwards.af.mil]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:08 PM
> > > To: 'discussion at nsrca.org'
> > > Subject: RE: Pattern Fun / scribe
> > >
> > >
> > > You may have your own opinion on scribes or no scribes.  BUT, do this
at
> > the
> > > next contest.  Fly your round, then sit back and watch another flyer
in
> > YOUR
> > > class.  Whatch his flight real close, and I'm sure you'll pick out
some
> > > errors, then, quickly look at the judges and notice which of the
judges
> > did
> > > not see the error, because their head was obviously down, and looking
at
> > the
> > > paper.  Then, realize that if you judge and look down to write scores,
> > that
> > > you probably miss something from that flight as well.  At the last
> > contest,
> > > I watched 1 judge who consistently missed the first two points of the
> > > inverted 4-pt roll, because they were looking down at writing the
score
> > from
> > > the full-roll 1/2 outside loop.  How the heck can you judge the 4-pt
> > > accurately, if you miss the entry (wings level?  heading?
> > > decending/climbing?), first roll rate, etc? Not to mention all other
> > > manuevers.  No judge should be looking down during any flight, from
> > > sportsman to FAI.  Tough issue....
> > >
> > > Jim W.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Ferrell [mailto:johnferrell at earthlink.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:52 AM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: Pattern Fun
> > >
> > >
> > >  (Can't see how you can judge FAI or Masters without a scribe.)
> > > You don't have to keep the clipboard in your lap!
> > >
> > > John Ferrell
> > > 6241 Phillippi Rd
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> > > Phone: (336)685-9606
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> > >
> > >
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