Outside the 9 dots - again

[Del Rykert]

I didn't realize it would mean only one judge per maneuver.  Didn't know if
that was acceptable to the majority to have everything resting on that one
judge. Personally I don't see a problem with that approach. It would solve
some other problems for certain.
     Del

----- Original Message -----
From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:27 AM
Subject: RE: Outside the 9 dots - again


> Del this is the same number of judges as we use today at local contests.
> Were you responding to a different note?
>
> Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Del Rykert [mailto:drykert at rochester.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:19 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Outside the 9 dots - again
>
>
> Not 2 b a Smart a** but will this leave anyone to fly? It does sound like
a
> great solution and has merit except for the real shortage of manpower when
> you CD a contest.
>
>     Del
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:22 AM
> Subject: Outside the 9 dots - again
>
>
> > If we copy FAI worlds judge team methodology we could use three judges.
> >
> > A version of this would be:-
> >
> > One judge who sits at the left and judges right hand turnarounds. One
who
> > sits at the right and judges left side turnarounds. And one in the
middle
> > who only judges center maneuvers.
> >
> > NO SCRIBES REQUIRED at all!
> >
> > If you use two judges then do one turnaround judge and one center judge.
> You
> > could swap the rolls in the next round and have, in essence two new
> judges.
> >
> > The system gives you time to read the next maneuver, judge the maneuver
> and
> > score it at your leisure. It also allows less confident judges, (to get
> > their feet wet, to judge higher level turnaround maneuvers with a more
> > experienced judge on the center.
> >
> > Anyone want to try it out at their next contest. BE BOLD
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Eric.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP
> > [mailto:James.Woodward2 at edwards.af.mil]
> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:08 PM
> > To: 'discussion at nsrca.org'
> > Subject: RE: Pattern Fun / scribe
> >
> >
> > You may have your own opinion on scribes or no scribes.  BUT, do this at
> the
> > next contest.  Fly your round, then sit back and watch another flyer in
> YOUR
> > class.  Whatch his flight real close, and I'm sure you'll pick out some
> > errors, then, quickly look at the judges and notice which of the judges
> did
> > not see the error, because their head was obviously down, and looking at
> the
> > paper.  Then, realize that if you judge and look down to write scores,
> that
> > you probably miss something from that flight as well.  At the last
> contest,
> > I watched 1 judge who consistently missed the first two points of the
> > inverted 4-pt roll, because they were looking down at writing the score
> from
> > the full-roll 1/2 outside loop.  How the heck can you judge the 4-pt
> > accurately, if you miss the entry (wings level?  heading?
> > decending/climbing?), first roll rate, etc? Not to mention all other
> > manuevers.  No judge should be looking down during any flight, from
> > sportsman to FAI.  Tough issue....
> >
> > Jim W.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Ferrell [mailto:johnferrell at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:52 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Pattern Fun
> >
> >
> >  (Can't see how you can judge FAI or Masters without a scribe.)
> > You don't have to keep the clipboard in your lap!
> >
> > John Ferrell
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> >
> >
> >
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