AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph

John Ferrell johnferrell at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 2 06:01:38 AKDT 2002


I am amazed at the length of this thread. Since I am such a poor flyer I
spend a lot of time working events. That affords an opportunity to observe
other people close up.

Sooner or later, NEARLY everyone displays regretable behaviour.
No one who gets hung up on a single event (good or bad) can excell.
The important thing about this artical is not that it happened or that it
was written in a magazine.
The real importance is that it shows that a negative experience can have a
long term impact.

We can strive to do better in the future, but we cannot do anything about
the past. This thread seems to be holding the victim responsible. He has
only called attention to to the importance being "nice folks" at all times.

Nothing shows a person's true character better than a disaster.
When you are having a bad day it is no excuse for being crude and rude.

John Ferrell
6241 Phillippi Rd
Julian NC 27283
Phone: (336)685-9606
Dixie Competition Products
NSRCA 479 AMA 4190  W8CCW
"My Competition is Not My Enemy"



----- Original Message -----
From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph


> Mike reported what he heard. What basis do we have for an apology?
>
> Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Diamond [mailto:jed241 at email.msn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:59 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
>
>
> Mike, I will second that...I have attended  couple contest in California
in
> the mid 80's when I first got the bug. This is from someone that carried
> that bug since and just now starting to get involved. I have attended a
> couple contest in D4 and most recently the D3 Championship contest.
>
> At the D3 Contest this past weekend, I learned what pattern was all about.
I
> showed up and only knew one person that I met only once before. He
> introduced me to Mike Dunphy and I met many others at the contest. This
was
> a class act and sets the standard of how a contest should run. Everyone
was
> very helpful and offered there help with any questions or problems I might
> run into. Makes me wonder where the EGO problems are. I haven't seen
> them -ever-!!! Only negative vibes came from an IMACer....
>
> To be fair to Mike Hurley, I propose that Eric or an Officer of the NSRCA
> confront him with the voice of the NSRCA and request an explanation for
the
> article. I feel that a retraction or an apology is in order. I also
> recommend articles in Pattern columns with positive comments with out
> blasting at IMAC. We need to rise above it and press on....
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock at attbi.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
>
>
> I can answer that one for D3.
>
> As a relative newcomer, I can say with no reservations that from the very
> first contest, I have been treated with the utmost respect and comraderie.
> Everyone, including veteran master and FAI pilots, took time to help me
and
> make me feel at home. I didn't even have to ask, they just stepped over
and
> made sure I was having fun and learning every flight.
>
> I've been to almost all of the D3 contests this year, (8), and all of the
> people I met were great folks. Not a single jerk, that I can remember.
>
> I think it's each competitior's obligation to help the new guys, even if
> they're the competition. I try and make sure they aren't standing there
> wondering what to do, and I try and give as much advice as they want. Even
> if they didn't bring a plane and are just curious.
>
> The face of the NSRCA begins and ends with each and every one of us. We
> should all take personal responsibility to make sure new pilots enjoy
> themselves enough to come back again and again. I have to wonder the full
> story behind that guy's comments if he felt so excluded at a pattern
> contest. I'd bet he wasn't in D3 lately.
>
> -Mike Hester
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
>
>
> > The question still stands. Are we that bad now or have we got better?
> >
> > The answer determines your next personal action.
> >
> > I'll tell you now that I have found IMAC contests to be less tense and
the
> > folks tended to be more gregarious. The only grief I have had from IMAC
is
> > over the noise level proposals that my wife signed.
> >
> > I will say that I could print anti-IMAC letters etc in my column, but so
> far
> > I have not had any!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > E.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin X. Moleski, SJ [mailto:moleski at canisius.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:54 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
> >
> >
> > --On Monday, September 30, 2002 5:26 PM -0500 Larry Diamond
> > <jed241 at email.msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The problem isn't that it was published. The problem is that it ever
> > > happened in the first place. You can't stop all of it.
> >
> > It's not an either/or situation.
> >
> > Yes, the allegation, if true, indicates that some of us
> > may not be too hospitable to a newcomer during a contest.
> >
> > The publication of the allegation as a generalization is
> > stereotyping.  It is an offense in its own right.
> > "Pattern guys--self-centered and inhospitable; IMAC
> > guys--good."
> >
> > In the 1980s, I rode my bike onto an RC field in
> > the vicinity of D.C.  The guys cussed at me in no
> > uncertain terms for endangering myself.  They
> > were surly and rude.  They answered my questions
> > about the hobby in monosyllables, if at all.
> >
> > I made two decisions that day.  One was to get into
> > the hobby when I finished my Ph.D.  The other was
> > to greet newcomers with an extended hand and a smile.
> > I've kept both resolutions.
> >
> > Marty
> >
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