AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph

Tue Oct 1 14:17:47 AKDT 2002

Jeff....I think that there are many who don't realize that this is not a
hobby
to a lot of pattern or imac folks....at least it doesn't feel like it to
me.
For me, it's every day, all day and evening....not that I am constantly
doing 
something related to pattern, it's just that I am serious about
it...it's not something
I do to pass the time if I have nothing else to do.
I know what you mean though about the egos...they are out there!
I know of some pattern guys who won't talk to other pattern flyers
because they
are not in each others clique....oh well....I talk to all of em and I
usually learn something!
Especially from the Buddster!
	Dave 586

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph

Tony,
That's the part that I don't understand: "with huge egos", I guess some 
people forget that we fly model airplanes for a hobby. we're not curing 
cancer or feeding the hungry. How can people have an ego on this? It's a

hobby!!
Jeff

> Well stated, Mike!  It is ALL our responsibility, that's for sure!
> 
> Being USA Team Manager three times has exposed me to many people (many
that
> did not make the team!) with huge egos that won't talk to the rest of
us.
> Not good for pattern  or model airplanes of any type!
> 
> 
> Tony Stillman
> Radio South, Inc.
> 3702 N. Pace Blvd.
> Pensacola, Fl 32505
> www.radiosouthrc.com
> 800-962-7802
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock at attbi.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
> 
> 
> > I can answer that one for D3.
> >
> > As a relative newcomer, I can say with no reservations that from the
very
> > first contest, I have been treated with the utmost respect and
comraderie.
> > Everyone, including veteran master and FAI pilots, took time to help
me
> and
> > make me feel at home. I didn't even have to ask, they just stepped
over
> and
> > made sure I was having fun and learning every flight.
> >
> > I've been to almost all of the D3 contests this year, (8), and all
of the
> > people I met were great folks. Not a single jerk, that I can
remember.
> >
> > I think it's each competitior's obligation to help the new guys,
even if
> > they're the competition. I try and make sure they aren't standing
there
> > wondering what to do, and I try and give as much advice as they
want. Even
> > if they didn't bring a plane and are just curious.
> >
> > The face of the NSRCA begins and ends with each and every one of us.
We
> > should all take personal responsibility to make sure new pilots
enjoy
> > themselves enough to come back again and again. I have to wonder the
full
> > story behind that guy's comments if he felt so excluded at a pattern

> > contest. I'd bet he wasn't in D3 lately.
> >
> > -Mike Hester
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:01 AM
> > Subject: RE: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
> >
> >
> > > The question still stands. Are we that bad now or have we got
better?
> > >
> > > The answer determines your next personal action.
> > >
> > > I'll tell you now that I have found IMAC contests to be less tense
and
> the
> > > folks tended to be more gregarious. The only grief I have had from
IMAC
> is
> > > over the noise level proposals that my wife signed.
> > >
> > > I will say that I could print anti-IMAC letters etc in my column,
but so
> > far
> > > I have not had any!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > E.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin X. Moleski, SJ [mailto:moleski at canisius.edu]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:54 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
> > >
> > >
> > > --On Monday, September 30, 2002 5:26 PM -0500 Larry Diamond 
> > > <jed241 at email.msn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The problem isn't that it was published. The problem is that it
ever
> > > > happened in the first place. You can't stop all of it.
> > >
> > > It's not an either/or situation.
> > >
> > > Yes, the allegation, if true, indicates that some of us may not be

> > > too hospitable to a newcomer during a contest.
> > >
> > > The publication of the allegation as a generalization is 
> > > stereotyping.  It is an offense in its own right. "Pattern 
> > > guys--self-centered and inhospitable; IMAC guys--good."
> > >
> > > In the 1980s, I rode my bike onto an RC field in
> > > the vicinity of D.C.  The guys cussed at me in no uncertain terms 
> > > for endangering myself.  They were surly and rude.  They answered 
> > > my questions about the hobby in monosyllables, if at all.
> > >
> > > I made two decisions that day.  One was to get into
> > > the hobby when I finished my Ph.D.  The other was
> > > to greet newcomers with an extended hand and a smile. I've kept 
> > > both resolutions.
> > >
> > > Marty
> > >
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