rumor

Fri Nov 8 06:34:03 AKST 2002

Bob

"Plus - and for me (and others) - the most important aspect of the weight
rule is that it has NO meaning.  A "minimum" weight would make so much more
sense."  

Not sure that a minimum weight is a good thing since many of the new design
are not the full 2m span and the weights are 9 - 9.5 lb.  If someone wants
to fly smaller and lighter plane that should not be discouraged or
prevented. 

But, I agree that setting an upper weight limit is pointless since that
hinders performance of the plane by itself, however if the point is to
prevent bi-planes lets exclude the bi-planes (with weight limit eliminated I
am sure we will see some), or if the point is to exclude gas engines lets do
that.

Wojtek

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Bob Pastorello [SMTP:rcaerobob at cox.net]
	Sent:	Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:21 PM
	To:	discussion at nsrca.org
	Subject:	Re: rumor

	The practical component of the weight rule is  ???

	And out of the hundreds and hundreds of contests since the 5 kg
rule,
	exactly how many airplanes have EVER been weighed at local events?
	    CD's - for the most part that's US pattern fliers/club members -
	absolutely will not screw with trying to weigh
airplanes....logistically, it
	is an investment with no return.
	    Plus - and for me (and others) - the most important aspect of
the weight
	rule is that it has NO meaning.  A "minimum" weight would make so
much more
	sense.

	Not to be confused with the 2M rule - doorways, practically the
world over,
	are 2 m...or very close...just a thought...
	    Weight rule - until I can be shown a practical, meaningful and
	competition-related reason for it's existence, I'm one of those who
will
	support it - but never be interested in checking a plane at a
contest again.

	Oh - BTW - Yes, I **DID** do it once as a CD...NEVER, EVER, again
will I try
	that little trick at a local event, even if it WAS the "regional
	championships"....

	Bob Pastorello
	NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
	rcaerobob at cox.net
	www.rcaerobats.net

	----- Original Message -----
	From: <s.vannostrand at kodak.com>
	To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
	Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:05 PM
	Subject: Rd: rumor

	> Last year there were two VERY active threads on the weight limit.
One I
	> started.  I saved all the emails.  Both threads concluded that
letting
	> someone fly an airplane over 11 lbs was to his detriment, and the
rules
	> shouldn't prevent someone disadvantaging themselves. Most felt
raising the
	> limit to 12-14 lbs was better than eliinating it (I'm skipping all
the
	> details on purpose - this is a general conclusion).  However, the
member
	> survey did not produce the same conclusive results so no change
has been
	> proposed.
	>
	> I'm a full believer in the democratic process, so I've dropped the
issue
	> and I'm on board with the current rule.  However, with our noise
and size
	> limitations firmly in place, the weight rule will constantly be
viewed by
	> many as simply unnecessary.
	>
	> Even though this was rejected at CIAM and NSRCA this year, it is
likely to
	> continue to resurface until it is removed.
	>
	> --Lance
	>
	> This was rejected for F3A at the 2002 CIAM meeting.
	>
	>  It will probably be proposed again in the future.
	>
	>  Harry
	>
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	> Saw this while learking on the Imac list. Can anyone substantiate?
	>
	> Anthony
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	> > > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:08:27 -0700
	> > > Subject: [SA] rumors
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	> > > I just  heard a  rumor that  6KG is  being
	> > > considered  as the  weight
	> > > limit in 2004 - for FAI- This  from overseas  (out
	> > > of the  US).
	> > >  The object -to allow  use of the newer  gasoline
	> > > engines -
	> > >  (Which work at  5 KG also- but is  not as easy to
	> > > do ).
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	> > > just a  year away -
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