rumor
John Ferrell
johnferrell at earthlink.net
Sat Nov 9 05:48:58 AKST 2002
The specs we are currently using has led to airplanes that are only slightly
different in outward appearance. In some circumstances they may be counter
productive.
It appears to me that a weight increase at the Nats level might bring a few
more contestants in the Intermediate & Advanced classes. It would certainly
bring about Biplanes & bigger engines in Masters!
Here is something to ponder:
Keep the current size & weight but give Biplanes a 15%(?) bonus on their raw
score.
The advantages:
Some new airplanes to work with.
Greater spectator appeal?
Slower, close in flying more practical.
John Ferrell
6241 Phillippi Rd
Julian NC 27283
Phone: (336)685-9606
Dixie Competition Products
NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW
"My Competition is Not My Enemy"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tomanek, Wojtek" <tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: rumor
> Bob
>
> "Plus - and for me (and others) - the most important aspect of the weight
> rule is that it has NO meaning. A "minimum" weight would make so much
more
> sense."
>
> Not sure that a minimum weight is a good thing since many of the new
design
> are not the full 2m span and the weights are 9 - 9.5 lb. If someone wants
> to fly smaller and lighter plane that should not be discouraged or
> prevented.
>
> But, I agree that setting an upper weight limit is pointless since that
> hinders performance of the plane by itself, however if the point is to
> prevent bi-planes lets exclude the bi-planes (with weight limit eliminated
I
> am sure we will see some), or if the point is to exclude gas engines lets
do
> that.
>
> Wojtek
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Pastorello [SMTP:rcaerobob at cox.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:21 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: rumor
>
> The practical component of the weight rule is ???
>
> And out of the hundreds and hundreds of contests since the 5 kg
> rule,
> exactly how many airplanes have EVER been weighed at local events?
> CD's - for the most part that's US pattern fliers/club members -
> absolutely will not screw with trying to weigh
> airplanes....logistically, it
> is an investment with no return.
> Plus - and for me (and others) - the most important aspect of
> the weight
> rule is that it has NO meaning. A "minimum" weight would make so
> much more
> sense.
>
> Not to be confused with the 2M rule - doorways, practically the
> world over,
> are 2 m...or very close...just a thought...
> Weight rule - until I can be shown a practical, meaningful and
> competition-related reason for it's existence, I'm one of those who
> will
> support it - but never be interested in checking a plane at a
> contest again.
>
> Oh - BTW - Yes, I **DID** do it once as a CD...NEVER, EVER, again
> will I try
> that little trick at a local event, even if it WAS the "regional
> championships"....
>
> Bob Pastorello
> NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
> rcaerobob at cox.net
> www.rcaerobats.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <s.vannostrand at kodak.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:05 PM
> Subject: Rd: rumor
>
>
> > Last year there were two VERY active threads on the weight limit.
> One I
> > started. I saved all the emails. Both threads concluded that
> letting
> > someone fly an airplane over 11 lbs was to his detriment, and the
> rules
> > shouldn't prevent someone disadvantaging themselves. Most felt
> raising the
> > limit to 12-14 lbs was better than eliinating it (I'm skipping all
> the
> > details on purpose - this is a general conclusion). However, the
> member
> > survey did not produce the same conclusive results so no change
> has been
> > proposed.
> >
> > I'm a full believer in the democratic process, so I've dropped the
> issue
> > and I'm on board with the current rule. However, with our noise
> and size
> > limitations firmly in place, the weight rule will constantly be
> viewed by
> > many as simply unnecessary.
> >
> > Even though this was rejected at CIAM and NSRCA this year, it is
> likely to
> > continue to resurface until it is removed.
> >
> > --Lance
> >
> > This was rejected for F3A at the 2002 CIAM meeting.
> >
> > It will probably be proposed again in the future.
> >
> > Harry
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Saw this while learking on the Imac list. Can anyone substantiate?
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > "mini-iac at yahoogroups.com"
> > > > <mini-iac at yahoogroups.com>
> > > > From: dick hanson <dhmodels at concentric.net>
> > > > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:08:27 -0700
> > > > Subject: [SA] rumors
> > > >
> > > > I just heard a rumor that 6KG is being
> > > > considered as the weight
> > > > limit in 2004 - for FAI- This from overseas (out
> > > > of the US).
> > > > The object -to allow use of the newer gasoline
> > > > engines -
> > > > (Which work at 5 KG also- but is not as easy to
> > > > do ).
> > > > For the mathimatically disinfranchised --thats
> > > > just a year away -
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dick Hanson
> > > > 801-261 1402
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