K-Factor Pattern an invisible group

Bob Pastorello rcaerobob at cox.net
Fri Nov 1 14:17:33 AKST 2002


Glen, are you SURE they aren't saying "I did not think YOU could do that!"
????  <VBG>

Bob Pastorello
NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
rcaerobob at cox.net
www.rcaerobats.net


----- Original Message -----
From: <Glen.Watson at aspentech.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: K-Factor Pattern an invisible group


> I agree pattern is not cheap.  But I do not feel the cost of a single
> pattern ship really is the issue as to why folks choose not to fly and or
> complete in pattern.  The change for most is investing in one aircraft
> versus several.  It is not out of the ordinary within a flying season to
> witness a local club member purchase and outfit multiple ARFS ranging in
kit
> cost from $200-$400 (not including engine and radio) within a single
flying
> season.  Speaking for my self it was a huge paradigm shift to go from
owning
> as many as five ready to fly sport aircraft to only having 1-2 pattern
> aircraft.  I believe this is a real issue for a lot of folks.
>
> I believe there are those who are fearful to allocate disposable income
into
> a smaller inventory of ready to fly aircraft that are perceived to be
single
> task oriented.  For this reason, IMHO that's why there is a surge in the
> market for IMAC type aircraft. Even though they are expensive they are
> perceived to be multi task (precision, freestyle, high show-off factor)
type
> machines that possess a large WOW factor when just sitting in the pit
area.
>
> What's funny is when I perform freestyle type maneuvers at the local club
> field with a pattern aircraft, I consistently receive the same comment, "I
> did not think your pattern airplane could do that".
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Davis [mailto:lee at piedmontmodels.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:28 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: K-Factor Pattern an invisible group
>
> I agree with this.  Sure, pattern isn't cheap, but neither is crashing
> $200-$400 ARFs on a regular basis.  I see it all the time at my home
field.
>
> The best thing we can do is promote - as individuals, through our clubs
and
> by NSRCA.  Plenty of guys are already spending the money; we just need to
> steer them in our direction.
>
> Lee Davis
> Piedmont Models
> http://www.piedmontmodels.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Larson" <csmulti at volcano.net>
> To: "ANDY HERIDER" <andyh at bright.net>; <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: K-Factor Pattern an invisible group
>
>
> > Hello All-
> > I don't deny the results of the poll re: cost prohibitive, but I would
> > observe it is probably more of a "perspective" issue.  As one just
getting
> > into it ( I fly Sportsman in Northern Cal with a cheap ARF ), I think
it's
> > all relative to your interest level.
> > When I go to the field and see these same guys flying IMAA planes, or
even
> > expensive ARF's, you know these guys have at least $1000 tied up in it.
> But
> > it doesn't bother them, because they enjoy it.  If they had the same
> > enjoyment for Pattern, I suspect money would not be the issue.  Case in
> > point - I am building a Typhoon 2+2 with an OS 160FX in it.  Not the
most
> > expensive setup, but with a family and being self employed, all money
> > matters.  Point is, I enjoy it, so I am doing it.  Where there is a
will,
> > there is a way!  Just like when the latest and greatest IMAA legal ARF
or
> > kit comes out, these guys won't bat an eye at the cost, they just find a
> way
> > to do it.
> > As a group maybe we need to put less emphasis on equipment to beginners,
> and
> > more on just piquing their interest in performing precision aerobatics.
> > Once the seed is planted, it will probably grow on it's own.  It's
worked
> > for me!
> > Later All,
> > Chris Larson
> > NSRCA 3484
> >
> >
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