Li-ion & Nimh

[Mike Hester]

Nope, that wasn't safety talk in that particular snippet. That was a rational comparison, and I stand by it...I don't see the advantage.

As for my "vendetta", hmm. Well I just reread ALL of the posts I have made on this subject....all 4 of them before tonight...and I fail to see a vendetta against any particular battery reseller. Could you point it out if you see it?

I do however have a LEGITIMATE gripe about certain configurations of this "new" technology, more specifically in regards to it being marketed to R/Cers as "SAFE". That is a relative term, and I do believe I have illustrated it well.

If you read that I have stepped beyond any "protection", I strongly disagree. You simply put 2 paragraphs together out of context, and formed YOUR own opinion. I am in no need of protection of any kind whatsoever. This is a discussion list, for DISCUSSION, which is exactly what I'm doing.

I'm not sure what other approach you would prefer, besides just saying nothing at all, which I can't do and sleep at night. It's up to you whether or not you take heed. 

I have done nothing but offered warnings, told a true story, offered a comparison, and asked a question: what's the advantage and is it worth the risk? I still fail to see your problem with it. 

-Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adam Glatt 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Li-ion & Nimh


  "Now let's look at what benefit they really give you. Let's take, oh, lemme see....Duralite Plus is a good example for this analogy. For a typical pattern application, the pack to use is the 1900 mah pack. With regulator, it weighs between 4.5-5 ounces. How many flights do you get before recharge? 10 maybe? 
  Now let's look at good ole archaic nicads. I have an SR 1100 pack in my plane. Weighs about 4 ounces (LIGHTER than the Duralites). I can get about 8-10 flights out of it, depending on what I'm doing. After that I'm baked anyway. Now this plane has 6 digital servos. And I have a 1600 pack here that weighs about 4 ounces as well.
  So let me see. They are more expensive, they are heavier, and they are a REAL hazard at burning you to the ground. Hmmm.....I fail to see the advantage. Is it because they are the latest and the greatest? 
  Someone enlighten me."


  That isn't safety talk, Mike.

  You stepped beyond the protection of constructive opinion and journalism.  Your personal vendetta against these technologies, and more specifically certain battery resellers, became clear in the email I responded to.

  I can't make you drop it, Mike, and I can't be in charge of declaring whether or not your continued 'activism' is effectually useful, but I thought it was time for you to reivew your own posts on this discussion group and perhaps develop a new approach.

  You did review, so my self-appointed task - which I thought would be in _your_ best interests - was successful, and I can be content with that.  My intrusion is complete.

  (It says my name in the 'From:' field)

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mike Hester 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: December 13, 2002 11:03 PM
    Subject: Re: Li-ion & Nimh


    Nahh,

    On second thought, it's not aiight. Not one bit.

    I haven't stepped beyond the protection of anything. And if I had, WHO CARES???? 

    Did I say something you didn't like? Or are you just "tired of it"? If you are, nobody is forcing you to read it. You'd be better served by keeping your comments to yourself, unless you have something of substance to add.

    Obviously, there's an issue to be discussed. A safety issue, among other things. Is there some reason you have for not wanting us to discuss it? 

    I'm sure there's plenty of others who feel the same way you do. That's fine with me, discuss whatever you want to and I can garauntee I won't be telling you to "drop it" in a roundabout way.

    But maybe, just MAYBE one person out there might read this and say "oh dang maybe I should be careful". And just MAYBE he will keep from losing his life. Would that be ok with you?

    Your attitude about this astounds me, it really does.

    Mike Hester

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mike Hester 
      To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 8:03 PM
      Subject: Re: Li-ion & Nimh


      Aiight.

      -M
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