[NSRCA-dist8] Contest Scores

Sun Jun 28 20:41:42 AKDT 2015

Speaking of scores....This is a bit of a touchy subject, but I think it
needs to be voiced. I really feel it is vitally important we be familiar
with the sequences we are judging. Here is an example that I was able to
garner from the results Gordon posted.

At one of our contest, I witnessed a maneuver (I was not judging) that was
flown totally wrong that it should have been a no question zero, yet the
pilot received a 7 and an 8 from the judges.I won't name the pilot or the
contest, but had the judges been familiar with the sequence, they would
have known it immediately. It wasn't something like an a judgment call on a
snap or a spin.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Gordon,
>
> No problem  I agree, I stayed inside and cut and buffed wings and stabs.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry I was so far behind! I will try to keep up with things the rest of
>> the season…. it was too hot here today to anything outside so it was a good
>> day to spend behind the keyboard!
>>
>> —Gordon
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Gordon,
>>
>> Thanks for getting the results up and running!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:13 PM, trexlesh at msn.com <
>> nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>>  Looking at the raw scores can tell you where you are lacking or
>>> winning in comparing pilot scores.  To me, the best thing about Gordon's
>>> scoring sheets is the running summary of the average scores and points cost
>>> of individual maneuvers.  That will instantly tell me where I need to
>>> improve.
>>> Comparing normalized scores between you and the other pilots is a quick
>>> way to see if you are gaining or not, but you have to see where in the
>>> sequence that is happening.  The only way to do that is to see the other
>>> pilot raw scores in each maneuver.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Tablet
>>>
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> *From: *Karl Watts via NSRCA-dist8
>>> *Date: *Sun, Jun 28, 2015 6:46 PM
>>> *To: *Gordon Anderson;
>>> *Cc: *AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY;
>>> *Subject:*Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Contest Scores
>>>
>>> Oh, I did not know I could see raw scores.  This helps as I try to
>>> compare my flights to others from another contest.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Karl,
>>>
>>> It is kind of hard to do, you can see all the scores on the web site
>>> even each pilot's raw scores. I think the best comparison would be the
>>> normalized scores but this is not perfect. There has been a lot of debate
>>> over normalization. You can at least get a pretty good idea.
>>>
>>> You can learn a lot looking at the scores and seeing how consistent the
>>> pilots are etc. There is a lot to be said for consistency.
>>>
>>> --Gordon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Karl Watts <karlwatt at sarmc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, this makes sense.  So I really cannot compare my scores in Redmond
>>> contest to how pilots did in the Boise contest?
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok the web site 2015 contest results are posted. I still have to update
>>> the district champ rules as per the new rules and post the current results.
>>> I will do this later this week I hope. Please check out the site and make
>>> sure I have this correct, let me know if you find any errors.
>>>
>>> Karl,
>>>
>>> Please reference this link from Redmond:
>>> http://www.nsrca.us/contest_results/2015/D8/Redmond/contestResults.XML
>>> It shows the standings and has detail you don't see on your score
>>> sheets. So here is how the scoring works:
>>> 1.) We generally fly 6 rounds and you take your top 4 rounds and sum
>>> them to get your final score.
>>> 2.) Your score sheets show your raw scores that have had the Kfactors
>>> applies.
>>> 3.) Your raw scores are normalized to the highest scoring pilot in each
>>> round. The highest scoring pilots gets 1000 points and all the other pilots
>>> are normalized to this highest score. So if you received a raw score that
>>> was 90% of the highest scoring pilot you would get 900 points.
>>> 4.) Your four highest rounds are then summed to get your final score. If
>>> you look at the link you will see lines through your rounds that were
>>> thrown out.
>>> 5.) The highest possible total score is 4000 if you win 4 rounds.
>>>
>>> I hope this makes sense??
>>>
>>> --Gordon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Outstanding...thank you.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i will as soon as I finish posted all the web updates, should finish in
>>>> 10 to 15 mins....
>>>>
>>>> --g
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Patrick Harris via NSRCA-dist8 <
>>>> nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gordon or Rex....you want to explain "Normalization"?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Karl Watts <karlwatt at sarmc.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So what is the connection between the scores I get handed to me after
>>>>> each round and the ones that determine the places?
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
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